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Old 12-11-2007, 10:41 PM
Sebastian Vahl
 
Default KDE-SIG weekly report (50/2007)

This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the
topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply
*to this email or add it to the related meeting page.

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= Weekly KDE Summary =

Week: 50/2007

Time: 2007-12-11 16:00 UTC

Meeting page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2007-12-11

Meeting log:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2007-12-11?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fedora-kde-sig-2007-12-11.txt

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= Participants =

- KevinKofler
- RexDieter
- SebastianVahl

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= Agenda =

topics to discuss:
gcc 4.3 and KDE 4 [1,2]
development progress: the road to kde4
extragear packaging
recent bugs:
/usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common and kdelibs3 - kdelibs-common package [3]

= Summary =

o gcc 4.3 and KDE 4:
- according to upstream gcc 4.3 could miscompile kde4 and may produce unusable
kde4 applications
- we have to find out when gcc-4.3 is actuall hitting rawhide
- after that is done we have to rebuild all packages to figure out the
problems and fill bugs

o development progress: the road to kde4:
- only kdeadmin is left from the normal packages
- kde-l10n will maybe finished by ThanNgo tomorrow
- KevinKofler suggested to eventually drop most of kdelibs3-devel which isn't
usefull anymore
- review for extragear-plasma is still ongoing and will be updated to 3.97.0
by SebastianVahl
- it will also obsolete kdeaddons since most of the packages/functions are now
in extragear-plasma

o extragear packaging:
- It would be good to package some modules from extragear which were in the
base packages in KDE3:
- extragear-base (all of it, or all that works, it's Konqueror plugins)
- extragear-graphics: at least kiconedit and kcoloredit
- extragear-multimedia: at least kmid and kaudiocreator
- pim/ksig
- if more than one app is in an extragear module it should be named like the
module (e.g. extragear-multimedia)
- packaging extragear modules won't get our primary attention. We should send
a mail to fedora-devel-list with a list of the now missing apps from the base
distribution and seek for maintainers who package them from extragear

o /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common and kdelibs3:
- kdelibs3 is now missing some things which are in kdelibs
- we will prepare a kdelibs-common package (from kdelibs(4)) which is required
by kdelibs3 and kdelibs

o Open Discussion:
- LiveCD: yelp is pulling in firefox (again) which should be fixed (in yelp or
in system-config-date which is requireing yelp)
- the current package list of the livecd:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SebastianVahl/CurrentPackageList

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= Next Meeting =

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2007-12-18

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= Links =

[1]
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=200712101318.57667.kevin.kof ler%40chello.at&forum_name=kde-redhat-devel
[2] http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/Upstream_Issues
[3] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=417251
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Old 12-11-2007, 10:51 PM
Sebastian Vahl
 
Default KDE-SIG weekly report (50/2007)

Sry. Copy&paste is sometimes not useful:

> = Participants =
>
> - KevinKofler
> - RexDieter
> - SebastianVahl
- PavelShevchuk (Stalwart)
- ThanNgo

Sebastian
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Old 12-12-2007, 06:43 AM
Kevin Kofler
 
Default KDE-SIG weekly report (50/2007)

Sebastian Vahl <ml <at> deadbabylon.de> writes:
> - KevinKofler suggested to eventually drop most of kdelibs3-devel which isn't
> usefull anymore

You mean kdebase3-devel there. :-) What I want to remove is the libs which are
only useful for KWin 3 styles, Konqueror 3 plugins, Kicker applets etc.,
because those can't be used with the KDE 4 version anyway.

Kevin Kofler

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Old 12-12-2007, 10:25 AM
Sebastian Vahl
 
Default KDE-SIG weekly report (50/2007)

Am Di 11.Dezember 2007 schrieb Sebastian Vahl:
> - if more than one app is in an extragear module it should be named like
> the module (e.g. extragear-multimedia)

After thinking a bit about that I disagree now. Eg. extragear-multimedia
contains also amarok, k3b and kplayer which are packaged as single
applications a long time (and IMHO supposed to be single apps):
http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/multimedia/

And also they are released as single tarballs (at least for 3.97.0):
ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/3.97/src/extragear

I think we should take the advantage here to package them as single
applications. That's also one of the most wanted features from users. And the
modules itself could differ in their release cycle.

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Old 12-12-2007, 10:51 AM
Kevin Kofler
 
Default KDE-SIG weekly report (50/2007)

Sebastian Vahl <ml <at> deadbabylon.de> writes:
> After thinking a bit about that I disagree now. Eg. extragear-multimedia
> contains also amarok, k3b and kplayer which are packaged as single
> applications a long time (and IMHO supposed to be single apps)

I'm not suggesting to ship these as part of extragear-multimedia, also because
they aren't really ready for KDE 4 yet (so we'll probably keep shipping the KDE
3 version) and AFAIK explicitly opted not to be included in the central
extragear releases.

> And also they are released as single tarballs (at least for 3.97.0):
> ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/3.97/src/extragear

That's a good argument for keeping them separate though.

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