>>>>> "IPS" == Igor Pires Soares <igorsoares@gmail.com> writes:

IPS> Hello! While spinning Rawhide I noticed that smolt-firstboot is
IPS> picking mysql, TurboGears and many python stuff as
IPS> dependencies. Is that normal?

Looks like smolt-firstboot requires python-turboflot, which pulls in
TurboGears, which has loads of python dependencies which ends up
sucking in the mysql and postgresql client libraries and a tonne of
other stuff.

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On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs@math.uh.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> "IPS" == Igor Pires Soares <igorsoares@gmail.com> writes:
>
> IPS> Hello! While spinning Rawhide I noticed that smolt-firstboot is
> IPS> picking mysql, TurboGears and many python stuff as
> IPS> dependencies. Is that normal?
>
> Looks like smolt-firstboot requires python-turboflot, which pulls in
> TurboGears, which has loads of python dependencies which ends up
> sucking in the mysql and postgresql client libraries and a tonne of
> other stuff.
>
> - J<
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And all of that for just something you only see once..
Would be best if smolt-firstboot just didn't have any dependency's or
only deps that are required by other must install (like python) apps
as well

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>>>>> "M" == Mark <markg85@gmail.com> writes:

M> And all of that for just something you only see once.. Would be
M> best if smolt-firstboot just didn't have any dependency's or only
M> deps that are required by other must install (like python) apps as
M> well

Well, it has to do things like talk over the web, so it's going to
need some RPC libraries of some type. I think it is, however, obvious
that the current dependency chain is excessive.

Checking the specfile, I see the python-turboflot dependency came in
with a change which was not changelogged (and did not include a
release bump), so there's no information about why that dep was
added. The next package change was a license tag change, which
included a release bump and a build. It is possible that something
snuck out which was not intentended. I'm sure more will be known
tomorrow when those involved are back from the weekend.

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On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs@math.uh.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> "M" == Mark <markg85@gmail.com> writes:
>
> M> And all of that for just something you only see once.. Would be
> M> best if smolt-firstboot just didn't have any dependency's or only
> M> deps that are required by other must install (like python) apps as
> M> well
>
> Well, it has to do things like talk over the web, so it's going to
> need some RPC libraries of some type. I think it is, however, obvious
> that the current dependency chain is excessive.
>
> Checking the specfile, I see the python-turboflot dependency came in
> with a change which was not changelogged (and did not include a
> release bump), so there's no information about why that dep was
> added. The next package change was a license tag change, which
> included a release bump and a build. It is possible that something
> snuck out which was not intentended. I'm sure more will be known
> tomorrow when those involved are back from the weekend.
>

Turboflot should only be necessary for the webapp server end. It is
not necessary for the client or firstboot.

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On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Yaakov Nemoy wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs@math.uh.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>> "M" == Mark <markg85@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > M> And all of that for just something you only see once.. Would be
> > M> best if smolt-firstboot just didn't have any dependency's or only
> > M> deps that are required by other must install (like python) apps as
> > M> well
> >
> > Well, it has to do things like talk over the web, so it's going to
> > need some RPC libraries of some type. I think it is, however, obvious
> > that the current dependency chain is excessive.
> >
> > Checking the specfile, I see the python-turboflot dependency came in
> > with a change which was not changelogged (and did not include a
> > release bump), so there's no information about why that dep was
> > added. The next package change was a license tag change, which
> > included a release bump and a build. It is possible that something
> > snuck out which was not intentended. I'm sure more will be known
> > tomorrow when those involved are back from the weekend.
> >
>
> Turboflot should only be necessary for the webapp server end. It is
> not necessary for the client or firstboot.
>

This is now fixed. I would like to ask, yet again, why something like
this was brought up on the list? Someone could have contacted us directly
or even filed a bug. Please think before posting to this list, its too
chatty as it is and is _NOT_ the correct place to go looking for actions
to be taken on specific packages and bugs that aren't philosophical in
nature.

-Mike

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Em Dom, 2008-09-07 às 19:22 -0500, Mike McGrath escreveu:
> This is now fixed. I would like to ask, yet again, why something like
> this was brought up on the list? Someone could have contacted us directly
> or even filed a bug. Please think before posting to this list, its too
> chatty as it is and is _NOT_ the correct place to go looking for actions
> to be taken on specific packages and bugs that aren't philosophical in
> nature.

I'm sorry. I wasn't sure if it was a bug or not, that's why I decided to
ask first.

Anyway, thanks for fixing it.

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