I was just over at gnu.org to download the anniversary video recorded
by Stephen Fry, and while I was there decided to take a look at what
systems they recommend as being free.

They list BLAG, which is based on Fedora. But Fedora itself (and
Debian) is not there!

http://www.gnu.org/links/links.html#FreeGNULinuxDistributions

This struck me as rather strange, especially considering their
guidelines are actually based on Fedora's (and we are thanked for it):
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html

As far as I remember, Rahul Sundaram was talking to the GNU / FSF
people about this quite a while back. Is it just the difference over
binary-only firmware that's consigning us to the "non-free" heap?

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On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 1:57 AM, Michel Salim <michel.sylvan@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was just over at gnu.org to download the anniversary video recorded
> by Stephen Fry, and while I was there decided to take a look at what
> systems they recommend as being free.
>
> They list BLAG, which is based on Fedora. But Fedora itself (and
> Debian) is not there!
>
> http://www.gnu.org/links/links.html#FreeGNULinuxDistributions
>
> This struck me as rather strange, especially considering their
> guidelines are actually based on Fedora's (and we are thanked for it):
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html
>
> As far as I remember, Rahul Sundaram was talking to the GNU / FSF
> people about this quite a while back. Is it just the difference over
> binary-only firmware that's consigning us to the "non-free" heap?
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Michel Salim
> http://hircus.jaiku.com/


I asked a similar question[1] in July, the basic idea I got from it
was that binary firmware is unGNU.

[1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-list/2008-July/msg01481.html

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"Michel Salim" <michel.sylvan@gmail.com> writes:
> I was just over at gnu.org to download the anniversary video recorded
> by Stephen Fry, and while I was there decided to take a look at what
> systems they recommend as being free.

I've got all the respect in the world for the work that RMS has done
over the years ... but:

gnu.org does not acknowledge any license but the GPL as being "truly
free", and they'll never acknowledge any system that is not 100.00%
GPL code as being "truly free". Draw your own conclusions about how
that stance connects to reality.

regards, tom "my stuff is BSD" lane

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