100525 Madhurya Kakati wrote:
> I am currently using Archlinux and Windows 7 and want to try out Gentoo.

Welcome aboard ! -- Gentoo requires a bit of work, time & attention,
but is not difficult & gives you real control on how you use your machine.

> I guess Grub will be overwritten by Gentoo,

Not really.

> but will it contain the options to boot Arch kernel images automatically?

You can keep your whole Arch & M$ systems in separate partitions,
while installing Gentoo on another partition(s) alongside.

> I really dont wanna mess up Grub.

I use Lilo, which is easier if you don't change things often,
but you sb able to find advice re Grub here or on the Gentoo Forum.

First, read the Gentoo User's Guide carefully,
then follow it to the letter when you install Gentoo.

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Philip, Thanks for the detailed answer.
On 5/25/2010 9:09 PM, Philip Webb wrote:
> 100525 Madhurya Kakati wrote:
>
>> I am currently using Archlinux and Windows 7 and want to try out Gentoo.
>>
> Welcome aboard ! -- Gentoo requires a bit of work, time & attention,
> but is not difficult & gives you real control on how you use your machine.
>
>
Only reason i will be using gentoo is for this
>> I guess Grub will be overwritten by Gentoo,
>>
> Not really.
>
>
>> but will it contain the options to boot Arch kernel images automatically?
>>
> You can keep your whole Arch & M$ systems in separate partitions,
> while installing Gentoo on another partition(s) alongside.
>
>
>> I really dont wanna mess up Grub.
>>
> I use Lilo, which is easier if you don't change things often,
> but you sb able to find advice re Grub here or on the Gentoo Forum.
>
> First, read the Gentoo User's Guide carefully,
> then follow it to the letter when you install Gentoo.
>
I have read that many times. Just need to get a printout now.

Madhurya Kakati writes:

> Philip, Thanks for the detailed answer.

Yeah, that was a nice one.

> On 5/25/2010 9:09 PM, Philip Webb wrote:
> > 100525 Madhurya Kakati wrote:
> >> I am currently using Archlinux and Windows 7 and want to try out
> >> Gentoo.
> >
> > Welcome aboard ! -- Gentoo requires a bit of work, time & attention,
> > but is not difficult & gives you real control on how you use your
> > machine.
>
> Only reason i will be using gentoo is for this
>
> >> I guess Grub will be overwritten by Gentoo,
> >
> > Not really.
> >
> >> but will it contain the options to boot Arch kernel images
> >> automatically?

Gentoo itself does nothing - there is no automatic installer, YOU do the
whole installation. You do not want to overwrite Grub? Well, then just
skip this section in the Gentoo Handbook. Just add an entry for your
Gentoo to you menu.lst. If you do not know what to add exactly, well, I'd
suggest to read a little more about grub Gentoo is special, there are
many things to do by yourself, which users of other distributions often do
not have to do.

> > You can keep your whole Arch & M$ systems in separate partitions,
> > while installing Gentoo on another partition(s) alongside.
> >
> >> I really dont wanna mess up Grub.

Well, just add something like
kernel /vmlinuz-gentoo root=/dev/sda7
to the menu.lst, but the exact parameters depend on your setup. In this
case, Arch Linux and Gentoo would use the same /boot partition, so you
just select another kernel image, and give the root device as kernel
parameter. If it does not work, reboot into Arch Linux, and fix the error.
And ask here if you are having problems.


> > First, read the Gentoo User's Guide carefully,
> > then follow it to the letter when you install Gentoo.
>
> I have read that many times. Just need to get a printout now.

Just in case you print it so have it handy when installing Gentoo...
there's probably no need for that (unless your are changing the
architecture from 32bit to 64bit, then this would not work). You do not
need to boot from a Gentoo CD, as you already have a running Linux, with
everything needed to set up partitions for Gentoo, output some Gentoo
stuff into them, and chroot into the new Gentoo system and do the rest of
the install.
So, boot into Arch Linux, and then do the Gentoo install. And keep using
your Arch system until you think Gentoo is fully operational.

Wonko

On 5/25/10, Madhurya Kakati <mkakati2805@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I am currently using archlinux and windows 7 and want to try out gentoo.
> I guess grub will be overwritten by gentoo but will it contain the
> options to boot arch kernel images automatically? I really dont wanna
> mess up grub.

You'll minimize your grub configuration work and pretty much
neutralize any risk to your currently installed OSes by testing and
trying out Gentoo in a virtualized system.

For example VirtualBox is freely available and takes only a few mouse
clicks to configure a virtual machine specifically suitable for Gentoo
(or Ubuntu, or Linux Mint, or Fedora, or OpenSUSE, or ...), then you
just attach the CD ISO to the virtual machine (clickety-click, 3
clicks if it's on the Desktop?), and boot (doubleclick). Next you do
the install, which in Gentoo's case means following the Gentoo
Handbook.

You can keep important tools like irc-client, your favourite search
engine and Gentoo Handbook browser window running in the host OS,
jumping between the host and guest with a single mouse click and right
ctrl key to get back. And that's just using the default settings out
of the box.

Try it out once. It hooked me after the 15 minutes it took to make the
first virtual image (and that's where I read all the labels and
options). Naturally, YMMV.

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The gentoo user community is so helpfull. Thanks guys.

On 5/25/10, Arttu V. <arttuv69@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/25/10, Madhurya Kakati <mkakati2805@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I am currently using archlinux and windows 7 and want to try out gentoo.
>> I guess grub will be overwritten by gentoo but will it contain the
>> options to boot arch kernel images automatically? I really dont wanna
>> mess up grub.
>
> You'll minimize your grub configuration work and pretty much
> neutralize any risk to your currently installed OSes by testing and
> trying out Gentoo in a virtualized system.
>
> For example VirtualBox is freely available and takes only a few mouse
> clicks to configure a virtual machine specifically suitable for Gentoo
> (or Ubuntu, or Linux Mint, or Fedora, or OpenSUSE, or ...), then you
> just attach the CD ISO to the virtual machine (clickety-click, 3
> clicks if it's on the Desktop?), and boot (doubleclick). Next you do
> the install, which in Gentoo's case means following the Gentoo
> Handbook.
>
> You can keep important tools like irc-client, your favourite search
> engine and Gentoo Handbook browser window running in the host OS,
> jumping between the host and guest with a single mouse click and right
> ctrl key to get back. And that's just using the default settings out
> of the box.
>
> Try it out once. It hooked me after the 15 minutes it took to make the
> first virtual image (and that's where I read all the labels and
> options). Naturally, YMMV.
>
> --
> Arttu V.
>
>

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On 5/25/2010 10:34 PM, Arttu V. wrote:
> On 5/25/10, Madhurya Kakati <mkakati2805@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi, I am currently using archlinux and windows 7 and want to try
>> out gentoo. I guess grub will be overwritten by gentoo but will
>> it contain the options to boot arch kernel images automatically?
>> I really dont wanna mess up grub.
>
> You'll minimize your grub configuration work and pretty much
> neutralize any risk to your currently installed OSes by testing
> and trying out Gentoo in a virtualized system.
>
> For example VirtualBox is freely available and takes only a few
> mouse clicks to configure a virtual machine specifically suitable
> for Gentoo (or Ubuntu, or Linux Mint, or Fedora, or OpenSUSE, or
> ...), then you just attach the CD ISO to the virtual machine
> (clickety-click, 3 clicks if it's on the Desktop?), and boot
> (doubleclick). Next you do the install, which in Gentoo's case
> means following the Gentoo Handbook.
>
> You can keep important tools like irc-client, your favourite
> search engine and Gentoo Handbook browser window running in the
> host OS, jumping between the host and guest with a single mouse
> click and right ctrl key to get back. And that's just using the
> default settings out of the box.
>
> Try it out once. It hooked me after the 15 minutes it took to make
> the first virtual image (and that's where I read all the labels
> and options). Naturally, YMMV.
>
will try that out soon
thanks
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Hi All,

I installed ubuntu 10.10 on my hp dv9260 x64 and everything worked
flawlessly, including wireless. I even have skype working out of the box
which is very unusual for me anyway.

But now after a few days, for some reason my wireless will not connect.
It sees the wireless network, but it will not connect. I can plug in a
ethernet cable and everything works fine, it is just wireless.

Any ideas?

Bob


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On 11/05/2010 02:39 AM, Bob Schmidt wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I installed ubuntu 10.10 on my hp dv9260 x64 and everything worked
> flawlessly, including wireless. I even have skype working out of the box
> which is very unusual for me anyway.
>
> But now after a few days, for some reason my wireless will not connect.
> It sees the wireless network, but it will not connect. I can plug in a
> ethernet cable and everything works fine, it is just wireless.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Bob
>
>
Maybe you're getting some sort of broad-band interference at 2.4GHz. Do
you have
any other "wi-fi" stuff that uses that band and still works? Also, try
moving either the
sender or the receiver a foot or two. There can be fairly steep nulls,
and you may
be in one. (That's why some of the "wii-fi" gear has two antennas--to
try and beat
the null problem.)

--doug

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Thanks for the suggestion...

I did try to move it around to no avail. It is very strange, everything
including the wireless was working fine, now the computer cannot seem to
log on to the wireless network. It

On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 03:06 -0400, Doug wroteicks the network up,
almost 100% signal strength, but cannot connect. I have triple checked
password, etc. and everything is correct. I'm not sure what has
happened. I hate to reinstall, because everything else is almost
perfect.

bob

> On 11/05/2010 02:39 AM, Bob Schmidt wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I installed ubuntu 10.10 on my hp dv9260 x64 and everything worked
> > flawlessly, including wireless. I even have skype working out of the box
> > which is very unusual for me anyway.
> >
> > But now after a few days, for some reason my wireless will not connect.
> > It sees the wireless network, but it will not connect. I can plug in a
> > ethernet cable and everything works fine, it is just wireless.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> Maybe you're getting some sort of broad-band interference at 2.4GHz. Do
> you have
> any other "wi-fi" stuff that uses that band and still works? Also, try
> moving either the
> sender or the receiver a foot or two. There can be fairly steep nulls,
> and you may
> be in one. (That's why some of the "wii-fi" gear has two antennas--to
> try and beat
> the null problem.)
>
> --doug
>
> Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides.
> --A. M. Greeley
>



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On 5 November 2010 06:39, Bob Schmidt <bob58523@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I installed ubuntu 10.10 on my hp dv9260 x64 and everything worked
> flawlessly, including wireless. I even have skype working out of the box
> which is very unusual for me anyway.
>
> But now after a few days, for some reason my wireless will not connect.
> It sees the wireless network, but it will not connect. I can plug in a
> ethernet cable and everything works fine, it is just wireless.

You might like to try installing wicd which some people (myself
included) have found more reliable for wireless connections. You can
always go back to the standard network manager if it does not help.

Colin

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