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Old 06-29-2008, 09:06 PM
"Chitlesh GOORAH"
 
Default LEGAL: SystemC Open Source License 2.3

Hello there,

I'm wishing someone could point out _whether_ the :
SYSTEMC OPEN SOURCE LICENSE v2.3 is compatible with Fedora Licenses policies.
http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/systemC/License.pdf

I've just requested a package review for systemc.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453335

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SystemC

SystemC's entrance on Fedora repositories will considerably elevate
FEL's professional status. We will attract more professionals than
hobbyists.

Fedora Electronic Lab is a platform for designing hardware with
opensource software.
Cadence and Synopsys, two big leading 'enemies' companies in the
semiconductor world have worked together for systemc.

Thus with systemc in the fedora repositories,
* we can provide quality and entreprise solutions to our Fedora Users.
* more universities or hardware engineers will be interested.
* more chances having embedded solutions by FEL in the future.

Another issue is that to obtain the sources, one has to subscribe on
their website.

There is already a Linux distribution shipping systemc, SCLinux:
http://sclive.wordpress.com/about/

Aside FEL is shipping VHDL and Verilog support, systemc's inclusion
would simply be the best professional and entreprise solution that we
can provide.

kind regards,
chitlesh

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Old 06-29-2008, 09:32 PM
Hans de Goede
 
Default LEGAL: SystemC Open Source License 2.3

Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:

Hello there,

I'm wishing someone could point out _whether_ the :
SYSTEMC OPEN SOURCE LICENSE v2.3 is compatible with Fedora Licenses policies.
http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/systemC/License.pdf



Hmm,

In general it looks ok, but ..
INAS (I Am Not Spot) but this could be a problem:

2.6 License to Marks.

(b) Recipient shall assist OSCI to the extent reasonably necessary to
protect and maintain the Marks worldwide, including, but not limited to,
giving prompt notice to OSCI of any known or potential infringement of the
Marks, and cooperating with OSCI in preparing and executing any
documents necessary to register the Marks, or as may be required by the
laws or rules of any country or jurisdiction. In its sole discretion, OSCI
may commence, prosecute or defend any action or claim concerning the
Marks. OSCI shall have the right to control any such litigation, and
Recipient shall fully cooperate with OSCI in any such litigation. OSCI shall
reimburse Recipient for the reasonable costs associated with providing
such assistance, except to the extent that such costs result from
Recipient’s breach of this Section 2.6. Recipient shall not commence any
action regarding the Marks without OSCI’s prior written consent.


So in effect the person receiving the license is in turn promising to help sue
people who are in breach of the SystemC trademark, hmmmmm.



Regards,

Hans

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Old 06-30-2008, 02:09 PM
Simo Sorce
 
Default LEGAL: SystemC Open Source License 2.3

On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 23:32 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
> > Hello there,
> >
> > I'm wishing someone could point out _whether_ the :
> > SYSTEMC OPEN SOURCE LICENSE v2.3 is compatible with Fedora Licenses policies.
> > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/systemC/License.pdf
> >
>
> Hmm,
>
> In general it looks ok, but ..
> INAS (I Am Not Spot) but this could be a problem:
>
> 2.6 License to Marks.
>
> (b) Recipient shall assist OSCI to the extent reasonably necessary to
> protect and maintain the Marks worldwide, including, but not limited to,
> giving prompt notice to OSCI of any known or potential infringement of the
> Marks, and cooperating with OSCI in preparing and executing any
> documents necessary to register the Marks, or as may be required by the
> laws or rules of any country or jurisdiction. In its sole discretion, OSCI
> may commence, prosecute or defend any action or claim concerning the
> Marks. OSCI shall have the right to control any such litigation, and
> Recipient shall fully cooperate with OSCI in any such litigation. OSCI shall
> reimburse Recipient for the reasonable costs associated with providing
> such assistance, except to the extent that such costs result from
> Recipient’s breach of this Section 2.6. Recipient shall not commence any
> action regarding the Marks without OSCI’s prior written consent.
>
>
> So in effect the person receiving the license is in turn promising to help sue
> people who are in breach of the SystemC trademark, hmmmmm.

IANAL,
but I think this license is troublesome.

The definition of "Contributor" and section 3 need real Legal overview.
They may make this license non free. On a cursory read it seem that
rights are given only to "Contributors" and that "Contributors" must go
through a complex system to disclose back changes.
I may be wrong, but certainly the language warrants a very careful read.

Simo.

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Old 06-30-2008, 04:51 PM
yersinia
 
Default LEGAL: SystemC Open Source License 2.3

Someone else are thinking as you

http://www.eetindia.co.in/ART_8800387245_1800001_TA_7b571e0b.HTM

Best Regards




On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Simo Sorce <ssorce@redhat.com> wrote:

On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 23:32 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:

> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:

> > Hello there,

> >

> > I'm wishing someone could point out _whether_ the :

> > SYSTEMC OPEN SOURCE LICENSE v2.3 is compatible with Fedora Licenses policies.

> > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/systemC/License.pdf

> >

>

> Hmm,

>

> In general it looks ok, but ..

> INAS (I Am Not Spot) but this could be a problem:

>

> 2.6 License to Marks.

>

> (b) * *Recipient shall assist OSCI to the extent reasonably necessary to

> protect and maintain the Marks worldwide, including, but not limited to,

> giving prompt notice to OSCI of any known or potential infringement of the

> Marks, and cooperating with OSCI in preparing and executing any

> documents necessary to register the Marks, or as may be required by the

> laws or rules of any country or jurisdiction. In its sole discretion, OSCI

> may commence, prosecute or defend any action or claim concerning the

> Marks. OSCI shall have the right to control any such litigation, and

> Recipient shall fully cooperate with OSCI in any such litigation. OSCI shall

> reimburse Recipient for the reasonable costs associated with providing

> such assistance, except to the extent that such costs result from

> Recipient's breach of this Section 2.6. Recipient shall not commence any

> action regarding the Marks without OSCI's prior written consent.

>

>

> So in effect the person receiving the license is in turn promising to help sue

> people who are in breach of the SystemC trademark, hmmmmm.



IANAL,

but I think this license is troublesome.



The definition of "Contributor" and section 3 need real Legal overview.

They may make this license non free. On a cursory read it seem that

rights are given only to "Contributors" and that "Contributors" must go

through a complex system to disclose back changes.

I may be wrong, but certainly the language warrants a very careful read.



Simo.



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