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Old 06-17-2008, 04:02 PM
"Callum Lerwick"
 
Default PPC/PPC64 builders not working?

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@chello.at> wrote:

Jesse Keating <jkeating <at> redhat.com> writes:

> To be fair, it likely requires a ppc host to be able to investigate the

> problem to this level, and that's just not something everybody has

> sitting on their desk.



Right, and that's why PPC (and PPC64 even more so) should be a secondary arch.

When the most mainstream "computer" with a PPC CPU is the PS3, you know you

have a problem. ;-) PPC as a primary arch made sense when Macs used it, not

anymore.
I've not the time to dig up numbers, but I'd be willing to bet that the Xbox 360, PS3, and Nintendo Wii, all PPC based, have together sold more units in the few years they've existed than PPC Mac's Apple has sold in its entire history. For extra points add the Game Cube in as well, it was PPC based too.


There's an immense installed base of brand new, (As in, not obsolete) PPC machines out there, although we're only officially allowed to run on the PS3 so far. It is rather shortsighted to discount this market.


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Old 06-17-2008, 04:36 PM
David Woodhouse
 
Default PPC/PPC64 builders not working?

On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 11:30 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 16:27 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > I can't reproduce it on any of my machines -- the above is from
> adding
> > 'strace -f' to the specfile, and trying a scratch build.
>
> This trick should likely be documented somewhere in our wiki to aid
> people in trying to debug build failures.

Perhaps. Along with crap like this...

@@ -49,9 +50,20 @@ features from the command line.

%build
%configure --disable-static
-make %{?_smp_mflags}
-doxygen doc/doxygen.conf
-
+#make %{?_smp_mflags}
+expect <<EOF
+spawn gdb --args doxygen doc/doxygen.conf
+expect "(gdb)"
+send "set pagination off
"
+expect "(gdb)"
+send "set follow-fork-mode child
"
+expect "(gdb)"
+send "run
"
+expect "(gdb)"
+send "bt
"
+expect (gdb)
+send "quit
"
+EOF

%install
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT

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Old 06-17-2008, 04:57 PM
Josh Boyer
 
Default PPC/PPC64 builders not working?

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:02:21 -0500
"Callum Lerwick" <seg@haxxed.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@chello.at>
> wrote:
>
> > Jesse Keating <jkeating <at> redhat.com> writes:
> > > To be fair, it likely requires a ppc host to be able to investigate the
> > > problem to this level, and that's just not something everybody has
> > > sitting on their desk.
> >
> > Right, and that's why PPC (and PPC64 even more so) should be a secondary
> > arch.
> > When the most mainstream "computer" with a PPC CPU is the PS3, you know you
> > have a problem. ;-) PPC as a primary arch made sense when Macs used it, not
> > anymore.
>
>
> I've not the time to dig up numbers, but I'd be willing to bet that the Xbox
> 360, PS3, and Nintendo Wii, all PPC based, have together sold more units in
> the few years they've existed than PPC Mac's Apple has sold in its entire
> history. For extra points add the Game Cube in as well, it was PPC based
> too.
>
> There's an immense installed base of brand new, (As in, not obsolete) PPC
> machines out there, although we're only officially allowed to run on the PS3
> so far. It is rather shortsighted to discount this market.

F8 and F9 both run on the PS3. I have no idea what you mean by
"officially allowed." Sony even gives you the option to install
another OS in their game firmware...

josh

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Old 06-17-2008, 05:11 PM
Jesse Keating
 
Default PPC/PPC64 builders not working?

On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 12:57 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> F8 and F9 both run on the PS3. I have no idea what you mean by
> "officially allowed." Sony even gives you the option to install
> another OS in their game firmware...

The PS3 is the only one where running another OS is allowed/encouraged.
The other platforms you have to actually work hard to get something else
on it, and you break the warranty along the way.

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Old 06-17-2008, 06:00 PM
David Woodhouse
 
Default PPC/PPC64 builders not working?

On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 17:36 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 11:30 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 16:27 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > > I can't reproduce it on any of my machines -- the above is from
> > adding
> > > 'strace -f' to the specfile, and trying a scratch build.
> >
> > This trick should likely be documented somewhere in our wiki to aid
> > people in trying to debug build failures.
>
> Perhaps. Along with crap like this...
>
> @@ -49,9 +50,20 @@ features from the command line.
>
> %build
> %configure --disable-static
> -make %{?_smp_mflags}
> -doxygen doc/doxygen.conf
> -
> +#make %{?_smp_mflags}
> +expect <<EOF
> +spawn gdb --args doxygen doc/doxygen.conf
> +expect "(gdb)"
> +send "set pagination off
"
> +expect "(gdb)"
> +send "set follow-fork-mode child
"
> +expect "(gdb)"
> +send "run
"
> +expect "(gdb)"
> +send "bt
"
> +expect (gdb)
> +send "quit
"
> +EOF
>

Which leads to this....

Program received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction.
[Switching to process 3824]
0x0f425434 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0
Missing separate debuginfos, use: debuginfo-install graphviz.ppc
(gdb)
bt
#0 0x0f425434 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0

... which in turn leads to
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451831

No hardware access required

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Old 06-17-2008, 06:33 PM
Josh Boyer
 
Default PPC/PPC64 builders not working?

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:11:28 -0400
Jesse Keating <jkeating@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 12:57 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > F8 and F9 both run on the PS3. I have no idea what you mean by
> > "officially allowed." Sony even gives you the option to install
> > another OS in their game firmware...
>
> The PS3 is the only one where running another OS is allowed/encouraged.
> The other platforms you have to actually work hard to get something else
> on it, and you break the warranty along the way.

Oh, I totally mis-read what Callum wrote. Ok, back to me being stupid.

josh

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Old 06-17-2008, 08:35 PM
David Woodhouse
 
Default PPC/PPC64 builders not working?

On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 13:12 +0200, Lorenzo Villani wrote:
>
> It seems that the PPC/PPC64 builders are stucked with our chainbuild:
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=664653
>
> As far as I can tell, it has been at least 6-7 hours now that those
> builders are processing kdepimlibs build.

Submit it again; it should work now that bug #451831 has been fixed.

Of course, the bug didn't get _fixed_ until after it was filed...

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