Java SIG Oct 19 meeting minutes & summary
 

On 10/20/2010 11:01 AM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> We had our bi-weekly meeting yesterday so I'm going to summarize what is
> happening right now in Fedora-Java world.

On a related note...I wanted to ask if perhaps we could talk about
changing the time/days of the meetings? I noticed that we don't have any
people from US attending the meetings anyway, so I'd like to move them
to sooner than 17:00 UTC.

Options I would like you to consider:
* Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday 13:00-14:00 UTC @ fedora-meeting
* Monday 14:00-15:00 UTC @ fedora-meeting
* Whole week at 14:00-15:00 UTC @ fedora-meeting-1

This is mostly question for people currently attending the meetings. I
would like you to have time to continue attending, but if we can move to
a time slot so that more people can come...all the better.

In general I'd like to avoid Monday/Friday because people are
travelling, there are often vacations etc. I'd also prefer
fedora-meeting to fedora-meeting-1 because of bigger audience, but it's
not that important.

Is there anyone for whom earlier times do not work (due to
work/school/other interests) ?

I created a voting form at (my first time, so maybe I screwed something
up).

http://www.makeavote.net/mavsta13752.html



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Java SIG Oct 19 meeting minutes & summary
 

On 10/20/2010 05:01 AM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote:

Hi everyone,

We had our bi-weekly meeting yesterday so I'm going to summarize what is
happening right now in Fedora-Java world.

People present:
* cspike
* ggraz
* mbooth
* akurtakov
* sochotni

Status updates:
* Maven 3 - work on custom resolver is starting




Would depfind be useful here?* I did a bit of work on the M3 awhile
back, but not enough to know what this would entail.






** will publish git repo on java-devel in due time

* Packages monitored by java sig
** List is getting longer, once semi-finished akurtakov will ask for
java-sig user to be created and added to these packages for
watchcommits
** agreed that commits will be sent to java-devel

* New guidelines are shaping up, several new improvements suggested
** see, comment, improve:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Akurtakov/JavaPackagingDraftUpdate

* Finishing up jakarta->apache rename (packages ready, need maintainers
of original packages to retire them - fnasser, jmrodri)
** also create apache-commons-parent package with proper
requires/pom.xml


Meetbot minutes (note that assigned actions look a bit like two man
show, but that's not the case...we just forgot to do #action properly :-) )

================================================== ===================
#fedora-meeting: Java SIG -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Java
================================================== ===================


Meeting started by akurtakov_ at 17:02:30 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-10-19/fedora-meeting.2010-10-19-17.02.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---------------
* roll-call (akurtakov_, 17:03:38)
* akurtakov_ cspike ggraz mbooth sochotni present (sochotni,
17:04:00)
* akurtakov_ cspike ggraz mbooth sochotni present (akurtakov_,
17:04:25)

* maven 3 status (akurtakov_, 17:05:33)
* LINK: http://sochotni.fedorapeople.org/maven-3.0-1.fc13.src.rpm
(sochotni, 17:06:37)
* LINK: http://sochotni.fedorapeople.org/maven-3.0-1.fc13.src.rpm
maven 3 source rpm (sochotni, 17:06:45)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MavenUpdate#Maven_3 may be
helpful, too (cspike, 17:06:58)
* LINK: http://sochotni.fedorapeople.org/maven-3.0-1.fc15.noarch.rpm
maven 3 binary rpm (sochotni, 17:07:01)
* ACTION: sochotni will put maven 3 spec for review (sochotni,
17:12:25)
* ACTION: sochotni will create public git repo with custom resolver so
others can see/review (sochotni, 17:12:56)
* new resolver should be basically re-implemented
maven-aether-provider (sochotni, 17:14:45)

* Java packages monitoring (sochotni, 17:15:04)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Java/Monitored_packages
Wiki to collect Java packages for monitoring (sochotni, 17:15:27)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ infra
ticketing system (sochotni, 17:19:26)
* ACTION: akurtakov_ will file infra ticket asking for java pseudo
user (sochotni, 17:19:44)
* java-sig user will forward to java-devel mailing list (sochotni,
17:26:08)

* New packaging guidelines (akurtakov_, 17:26:54)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Akurtakov/JavaPackagingDraftUpdate
Draft (sochotni, 17:27:15)
* ACTION: akurtakov_ to add javadoc:aggregate to guidelines
(akurtakov_, 17:31:31)
* ACTION: akurtakov_ add to guidelines that ant packages that have pom
files MUST install them (akurtakov_, 17:35:38)
* ACTION: akurtakov_ f there is no pom consider using the one from
maven central addition to guidelines (akurtakov_, 17:37:40)
* ACTION: akurtakov_ merge parts from JPPMavenReadme and explain when
usage of depmap is reasonable and when one have to patch the pom.xml
file (akurtakov_, 17:43:42)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_meeting_channel
(cspike, 17:54:56)

* Update Java SIG wiki (sochotni, 17:57:27)

* open-floor (akurtakov_, 17:58:15)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JakartaCommonsRename (cspike,
17:59:12)
* LINK:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life
(cspike, 18:01:11)
* ACTION: sochotni try to contact jmrodri and fnasser about orphaning
their jakarta packages (sochotni, 18:05:32)

Meeting ended at 18:25:51 UTC.




Action Items
------------
* sochotni will put maven 3 spec for review
* sochotni will create public git repo with custom resolver so others
can see/review
* akurtakov_ will file infra ticket asking for java pseudo user
* akurtakov_ to add javadoc:aggregate to guidelines
* akurtakov_ add to guidelines that ant packages that have pom files
MUST install them
* akurtakov_ f there is no pom consider using the one from maven central
addition to guidelines
* akurtakov_ merge parts from JPPMavenReadme and explain when usage of
depmap is reasonable and when one have to patch the pom.xml file
* sochotni try to contact jmrodri and fnasser about orphaning their
jakarta packages




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* akurtakov_
* akurtakov_ will file infra ticket asking for java pseudo user
* akurtakov_ to add javadoc:aggregate to guidelines
* akurtakov_ add to guidelines that ant packages that have pom files
MUST install them
* akurtakov_ f there is no pom consider using the one from maven
central addition to guidelines
* akurtakov_ merge parts from JPPMavenReadme and explain when usage of
depmap is reasonable and when one have to patch the pom.xml file
* sochotni
* sochotni will put maven 3 spec for review
* sochotni will create public git repo with custom resolver so others
can see/review
* sochotni try to contact jmrodri and fnasser about orphaning their
jakarta packages
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)




People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* sochotni (132)
* akurtakov_ (95)
* cspike (43)
* ggraz (27)
* mbooth (12)
* zodbot (3)







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Java SIG Oct 19 meeting minutes & summary
 

> On 10/20/2010 05:01 AM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > We had our bi-weekly meeting yesterday so I'm going to summarize what is
> > happening right now in Fedora-Java world.
> >
> > People present:
> > * cspike
> > * ggraz
> > * mbooth
> > * akurtakov
> > * sochotni
> >
> > Status updates:
> > * Maven 3 - work on custom resolver is starting
>
> Would depfind be useful here? I did a bit of work on the M3 awhile
> back, but not enough to know what this would entail.

Not at all. The resolver we are speaking about is a way to resolve Maven
groupId:artifactId from the system repository which has a different format
compared to upstream repository. It's no related to finding/graphing
dependencies at all but to mapping fedora installed jars to maven
groupId:artifactId.

Alexander Kurtakov

>
> > ** will publish git repo on java-devel in due time
> >
> > * Packages monitored by java sig
> >
> > ** List is getting longer, once semi-finished akurtakov will ask for
> >
> > java-sig user to be created and added to these packages for
> > watchcommits
> >
> > ** agreed that commits will be sent to java-devel
> >
> > * New guidelines are shaping up, several new improvements suggested
> >
> > ** see, comment, improve:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Akurtakov/JavaPackagingDraftUpdate
> >
> > * Finishing up jakarta->apache rename (packages ready, need maintainers
> >
> > of original packages to retire them - fnasser, jmrodri)
> >
> > ** also create apache-commons-parent package with proper
> >
> > requires/pom.xml
> >
> > Meetbot minutes (note that assigned actions look a bit like two man
> > show, but that's not the case...we just forgot to do #action properly :-)
> > )
> >
> > ================================================== ===================
> > #fedora-meeting: Java SIG -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Java
> > ================================================== ===================
> >
> >
> > Meeting started by akurtakov_ at 17:02:30 UTC. The full logs are
> > available at
> > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-10-19/fedora-meeting
> > .2010-10-19-17.02.log.html .
> >
> >
> >
> > Meeting summary
> > ---------------
> > * roll-call (akurtakov_, 17:03:38)
> >
> > * akurtakov_ cspike ggraz mbooth sochotni present (sochotni,
> >
> > 17:04:00)
> >
> > * akurtakov_ cspike ggraz mbooth sochotni present (akurtakov_,
> >
> > 17:04:25)
> >
> > * maven 3 status (akurtakov_, 17:05:33)
> >
> > * LINK: http://sochotni.fedorapeople.org/maven-3.0-1.fc13.src.rpm
> >
> > (sochotni, 17:06:37)
> >
> > * LINK: http://sochotni.fedorapeople.org/maven-3.0-1.fc13.src.rpm
> >
> > maven 3 source rpm (sochotni, 17:06:45)
> >
> > * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MavenUpdate#Maven_3 may be
> >
> > helpful, too (cspike, 17:06:58)
> >
> > * LINK: http://sochotni.fedorapeople.org/maven-3.0-1.fc15.noarch.rpm
> >
> > maven 3 binary rpm (sochotni, 17:07:01)
> >
> > * ACTION: sochotni will put maven 3 spec for review (sochotni,
> >
> > 17:12:25)
> >
> > * ACTION: sochotni will create public git repo with custom resolver so
> >
> > others can see/review (sochotni, 17:12:56)
> >
> > * new resolver should be basically re-implemented
> >
> > maven-aether-provider (sochotni, 17:14:45)
> >
> > * Java packages monitoring (sochotni, 17:15:04)
> >
> > * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Java/Monitored_packages
> >
> > Wiki to collect Java packages for monitoring (sochotni, 17:15:27)
> >
> > * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ infra
> >
> > ticketing system (sochotni, 17:19:26)
> >
> > * ACTION: akurtakov_ will file infra ticket asking for java pseudo
> >
> > user (sochotni, 17:19:44)
> >
> > * java-sig user will forward to java-devel mailing list (sochotni,
> >
> > 17:26:08)
> >
> > * New packaging guidelines (akurtakov_, 17:26:54)
> >
> > * LINK:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Akurtakov/JavaPackagingDraftUpda
> > te Draft (sochotni, 17:27:15)
> >
> > * ACTION: akurtakov_ to add javadoc:aggregate to guidelines
> >
> > (akurtakov_, 17:31:31)
> >
> > * ACTION: akurtakov_ add to guidelines that ant packages that have pom
> >
> > files MUST install them (akurtakov_, 17:35:38)
> >
> > * ACTION: akurtakov_ f there is no pom consider using the one from
> >
> > maven central addition to guidelines (akurtakov_, 17:37:40)
> >
> > * ACTION: akurtakov_ merge parts from JPPMavenReadme and explain when
> >
> > usage of depmap is reasonable and when one have to patch the pom.xml
> > file (akurtakov_, 17:43:42)
> >
> > * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_meeting_channel
> >
> > (cspike, 17:54:56)
> >
> > * Update Java SIG wiki (sochotni, 17:57:27)
> >
> > * open-floor (akurtakov_, 17:58:15)
> >
> > * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JakartaCommonsRename (cspike,
> >
> > 17:59:12)
> >
> > * LINK:
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life
> > (cspike, 18:01:11)
> >
> > * ACTION: sochotni try to contact jmrodri and fnasser about orphaning
> >
> > their jakarta packages (sochotni, 18:05:32)
> >
> > Meeting ended at 18:25:51 UTC.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Action Items
> > ------------
> > * sochotni will put maven 3 spec for review
> > * sochotni will create public git repo with custom resolver so others
> >
> > can see/review
> >
> > * akurtakov_ will file infra ticket asking for java pseudo user
> > * akurtakov_ to add javadoc:aggregate to guidelines
> > * akurtakov_ add to guidelines that ant packages that have pom files
> >
> > MUST install them
> >
> > * akurtakov_ f there is no pom consider using the one from maven central
> >
> > addition to guidelines
> >
> > * akurtakov_ merge parts from JPPMavenReadme and explain when usage of
> >
> > depmap is reasonable and when one have to patch the pom.xml file
> >
> > * sochotni try to contact jmrodri and fnasser about orphaning their
> >
> > jakarta packages
> >
> > Action Items, by person
> > -----------------------
> > * akurtakov_
> >
> > * akurtakov_ will file infra ticket asking for java pseudo user
> > * akurtakov_ to add javadoc:aggregate to guidelines
> > * akurtakov_ add to guidelines that ant packages that have pom files
> >
> > MUST install them
> >
> > * akurtakov_ f there is no pom consider using the one from maven
> >
> > central addition to guidelines
> >
> > * akurtakov_ merge parts from JPPMavenReadme and explain when usage of
> >
> > depmap is reasonable and when one have to patch the pom.xml file
> >
> > * sochotni
> >
> > * sochotni will put maven 3 spec for review
> > * sochotni will create public git repo with custom resolver so others
> >
> > can see/review
> >
> > * sochotni try to contact jmrodri and fnasser about orphaning their
> >
> > jakarta packages
> >
> > * **UNASSIGNED**
> >
> > * (none)
> >
> > People Present (lines said)
> > ---------------------------
> > * sochotni (132)
> > * akurtakov_ (95)
> > * cspike (43)
> > * ggraz (27)
> > * mbooth (12)
> > * zodbot (3)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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