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Old 09-03-2008, 04:32 PM
Harshad
 
Default Toddler question : Scala package maintainer

Hi,

I have been a Fedora user since 7 upto 9. I also use Scala
(www.scala-lang.org) a lot in my work.

After seeing this [1] announcement on the Scala website, I thought I would
chip-in for maintaining a Scala package for Fedora, and do my bit for both
of these excellent communities.

Trouble is that I have never done such a thing before. I have never compiled
my own RPM, ever. I am looking at the package maintainers guide [2] right
now and I am confident of following the details. But I need some
baby-sitting for some top-level questions:

* Is this the right list for asking questions about applications based on
Java?

* The creating-package-howto [3] says that we need to begin with
pristine-sources and not use pre-compiled binaries. Is this applicable for
Java packages too? Is pre-compiled to byte-code considered pristine
enough?

Thanks in advance,
Harshad


[1] http://www.scala-lang.org/node/296
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join
[3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/CreatingPackageHowTo

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Old 09-03-2008, 05:19 PM
Andrew Overholt
 
Default Toddler question : Scala package maintainer

Hi,

* Harshad <harshad.rj@gmail.com> [2008-09-03 12:40]:
>
> After seeing this [1] announcement on the Scala website, I thought I would
> chip-in for maintaining a Scala package for Fedora, and do my bit for both
> of these excellent communities.

Cool!

> * Is this the right list for asking questions about applications based on
> Java?

Yup. It's generally about stuff written in Java _in_ or _going into_
Fedora.

> * The creating-package-howto [3] says that we need to begin with
> pristine-sources and not use pre-compiled binaries. Is this applicable for
> Java packages too?

Yes.

> Is pre-compiled to byte-code considered pristine enough?

Haha, no

Andrew

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Old 09-03-2008, 05:30 PM
Harshad
 
Default Toddler question : Scala package maintainer

Andrew Overholt wrote:

>> Is pre-compiled to byte-code considered pristine enough?
>
> Haha, no

I thought so

But, the scala compiler is implemented in the scala language. This would
mean cyclic dependencies (?) or perhaps we need to bootstrap it by
following the older scala versions which must have started from .java.

I guess adding scala is like adding a whole new language. It just so happens
that it compiles to JVM as its target platform.

So, it is not written in Java (the language), yet is a Java application
(running on the JVM)


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Old 09-03-2008, 05:37 PM
Andrew Haley
 
Default Toddler question : Scala package maintainer

Harshad wrote:
> Andrew Overholt wrote:
>
>>> Is pre-compiled to byte-code considered pristine enough?
>> Haha, no
>
> I thought so
>
> But, the scala compiler is implemented in the scala language. This would
> mean cyclic dependencies (?)

No, there's no need for that. The Scala build will need a Scala compiler;
that's no different from gcc, which is written in C. So, the bootstrap
Scala package will need pre-compiled bytecode, but we won't release that.

Andrew.

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Old 09-03-2008, 05:47 PM
Harshad
 
Default Toddler question : Scala package maintainer

Andrew Haley wrote:

> Harshad wrote:
>
> No, there's no need for that. The Scala build will need a Scala compiler;
> that's no different from gcc, which is written in C. So, the bootstrap
> Scala package will need pre-compiled bytecode, but we won't release that.


Thanks both the Andrews for your quick responses.

But some more searching revealed that another guy, Geoff Reedy, is making a
similar effort and is much ahead than where I am:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=426867

So, I will leave it to him.

right ho,
Harshad

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