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Old 08-30-2008, 01:06 AM
Dan Thurman
 
Default F9: Eclipse problems found

I noticed errors showing up with Eclipse on F9.

I checked and verified the claims as to missing components and they are
missing.
I did not attempt to try and reinstall eclipse from past experience in
that it never worked
and want to wait until someone responds and tells me what to do. It
seems that there are
problems trying to install other components (Software Updates) such as
BIRT (missing
required components from which I could not find to resolve), Mylin,
PyDev and so on
as I also wanted to wait to get the core Eclipse fixed before
continuing. PyDev in
particular was hanging every time, at random places, during downloads so
I never
made it past that point. Downloading from Europa Discovery Site was no
problem

and made it all the way through to installation with no errors.

Following is what shows up in: Help->Software Updates->Manage Configuration

=============
/usr/share/Eclipse
=============
+ Eclipse C/C++ Development Tools 4.0.3 200804041441
Plug-in "org.eclipse.cdt.core.linux.x86" version "4.0.0.200804041441"
referenced by this feature is missing.


+ Eclipse C/C++ Development Tools SDK 4.0.3 200804041441
Included feature "Eclipse C/C++ Development Tooling Source" version
"4.0.3.200804041441" contains problems.


+ Eclipse Project SDK 3.3.3r33x_r20080120-7M7J7LB-u3aphGW6o3_VmiVfGXWO
Included feature "Eclipse Platform" version
"3.3.3.r33x_r20080129-_19UEl7Ezk_gXF1kouft" contains problems.
Included feature "Eclipse Platform Plug-in Developer Resources" version
"3.3.3.r33x_r20080129-_19UEl7Ezk_gXF1kouft" contains problems.
Included feature "Eclipse Java Development Tools" version
"3.3.2.r33x_r20080129-7o7jE7_EDhYDiyVEnjb1pFd7ZGD7" contains problems.
Included feature "Eclipse JDT Plug-in Developer Resources" version
"3.3.2.r33x_r20080129-7o7jE7_EDhYDiyVEnjb1pFd7ZGD7" contains problems.
Included feature "Eclipse Plug-in Development Environment" version
"3.3.3.r33x_r20080129-7N7M5DQVIA_6oJsEFkEL" contains problems.


+ Fedora Eclipse Feature 1.0.0
Plug-in "org.fedoraproject.ide.platform" version "0.0.0" referenced by
this feature is missing.


+ Graphical Editing Framework SDK 3.3.0 200802201606
The feature is disabled.
(Replaced by Graphical Editing Framework SDK 3.3.2.v20080129)

+ SETools 3.3.2.4
Plug-in "com.tresys.setools.linux.x86" version "3.3.2" referenced by
this feature is missing.


===========
/usr/lib/eclipse
===========
+ Eclipse RCP 3.3.3.r33x_r20080129-8y8eE9UEUWI6qyjeED)xT7bc
Plug-in "com.ibm.icu" version "3.6.1.v20070906" referenced by this
feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.core.commands" version "3.3.0.I20070605-0010"
referenced by this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.core.databinding" version "1.0.1.M20070822-0800"
referenced by this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.core.databinding.beans" version
"1.0.1.M20070910-0800b" referenced by this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.core.jobs" version "3.3.1.R33x_v20070709"
referenced by this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.core.expressions" version "3.3.0.v20070606-0010"
referenced by this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.core.runtime" version "3.3.100.v20070530"
referenced by this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.core.runtime.compatibility.auth" version
"3.2.100.v20070502" referenced by this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.osgi" version "3.3.2.R33x_v20080105" referenced by
this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.help" version "3.3.2.v20071126_33x" referenced by
this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.swt" version "3.3.2.v3349d" referenced by this
feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.jface" version "3.3.2.M20080207-0800" referenced by
this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.jface.databinding" version "1.1.1.M20080207-0800"
referenced by this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.ui" version "3.3.1.M20071128-0800" referenced by
this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.ui.workbench" version "3.3.2.M20080207-0800"
referenced by this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.update.configurator" version
"3.2.101.R33x_v20070810" referenced by this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.rcp" version "3.2.1.r33x_r20080131" referenced by
this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.core.contenttype" version "3.2.100.v20070319"
referenced by this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.equinox.app" version "1.0.1.R33x_v20070828"
referenced by this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.equinox.common" version "3.3.0.v20070426"
referenced by this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.equinox.preferences" version
"3.2.101.R33x_v20080117" referenced by this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.equinox.registry" version "3.3.1.R33x_v20070802"
referenced by this feature is missing.
Plug-in "org.eclipse.equinox.launcher" version "1.0.1.R33x_v20080118"
referenced by this feature is missing.


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Old 09-03-2008, 02:14 PM
Andrew Overholt
 
Default F9: Eclipse problems found

Hi Dan,

> BIRT (missing required components from which I could not find to
> resolve),

This is a special case IIRC because it requires a specific version of
Tomcat bundled up which we don't ship. If you want to use BIRT, it's
probably easiest to just use an eclipse.org download.

> Mylin,
> PyDev

There are RPMs of both of these.

> + Eclipse C/C++ Development Tools 4.0.3 200804041441
> Plug-in "org.eclipse.cdt.core.linux.x86" version "4.0.0.200804041441"
> referenced by this feature is missing.

I thought we had talked about this before, but this is a bug in the old
Update manager when dealing with fragments. It doesn't affect
functionality.

> + Graphical Editing Framework SDK 3.3.0 200802201606
> The feature is disabled.
> (Replaced by Graphical Editing Framework SDK 3.3.2.v20080129)

I don't know where you got GEF but if it's some old Feodra package,
remove it.

> + SETools 3.3.2.4
> Plug-in "com.tresys.setools.linux.x86" version "3.3.2" referenced by
> this feature is missing.

This is the same as the CDT fragment issue above.

> Plug-in "org.eclipse.equinox.common" version "3.3.0.v20070426"
> referenced by this feature is missing.

I have no idea about these features. But the important point is that
there are known bugs in the old Update manager when dealing with split
configurations like we have in Fedora. The dialogue you used that gave
you these "errors" is a part of the old Update manager. If you notice
actual behavioural problems (the BIRT issue is a unique case), then we
have an issue, but these "configuration is broken" messages are harmless
and incorrect.

In the future, please file bugs for potential issues you find. Thanks.

Andrew

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Old 09-03-2008, 10:09 PM
Dan Thurman
 
Default F9: Eclipse problems found

Andrew Overholt wrote:


Hi Dan,

> BIRT (missing required components from which I could not find to
> resolve),

This is a special case IIRC because it requires a specific version of
Tomcat bundled up which we don't ship. If you want to use BIRT, it's
probably easiest to just use an eclipse.org download.


Can I simply download just about any package from the
Eclipse.org site, download it, and simply overlay it on
top of the existing eclipse directory depending on if the
package is rooted on the 'eclipse' directory? Some packages
may have only the features/plugins directory and in that
case, is overlayed on top of those directories under the
eclipse directory. More below...


> Mylin,
> PyDev


There are RPMs of both of these.


Ok.


> + Eclipse C/C++ Development Tools 4.0.3 200804041441
> Plug-in "org.eclipse.cdt.core.linux.x86" version "4.0.0.200804041441"
> referenced by this feature is missing.


I thought we had talked about this before, but this is a bug in the old
Update manager when dealing with fragments. It doesn't affect
functionality.


Ok, so I can simply ignore the messages therein.


> + Graphical Editing Framework SDK 3.3.0 200802201606
> The feature is disabled.
> (Replaced by Graphical Editing Framework SDK 3.3.2.v20080129)

I don't know where you got GEF but if it's some old Feodra package,
remove it.


Ok, I deleted the folders/files containing the specific GEF found
in features and plugins directories and the GEF error message
no longer appears.


> + SETools 3.3.2.4
> Plug-in "com.tresys.setools.linux.x86" version "3.3.2" referenced by
> this feature is missing.


This is the same as the CDT fragment issue above.


Ok, not an error, but an annoyance.


> Plug-in "org.eclipse.equinox.common" version "3.3.0.v20070426"
> referenced by this feature is missing.


I have no idea about these features. But the important point is that
there are known bugs in the old Update manager when dealing with split
configurations like we have in Fedora. The dialogue you used that gave
you these "errors" is a part of the old Update manager. If you notice
actual behavioural problems (the BIRT issue is a unique case), then we
have an issue, but these "configuration is broken" messages are harmless
and incorrect.


You say 'old' update manager - are you referring to the Update
Manager found in Fedora's Eclipse (via Help->Software Updates)
or what - I am clueless here. AFAIK - I am simply using Fedora-8/9's
Eclipse and trying to understand what is going on.


In the future, please file bugs for potential issues you find. Thanks.


But I was not sure these are 'bugs' per-se but rather clueless which
is why I posted here to get a better understanding of what is going
on before filing a bug when it is not really a bug, but ignorance on
my part.


Andrew

BTW: I downloaded from Eclipse.org, "Eclipse IDE for Java and Report
Developers (188 MB)
<http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/ganymede/R/eclipse-reporting-ganymede-linux-gtk.tar.gz>"
(Linux 32bit
<http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/ganymede/R/eclipse-reporting-ganymede-linux-gtk.tar.gz>)
to my Desktop, which created a file called:
"eclipse-reporting-ganymede-linux-gtk.tar.gz"
which was not seen as an icon on my desktop at all - I had to use the
Gnome Terminal Emulator to
actually see this file, moved it to another folder, and from there I was
able to open this package
and found that it was rooted with the 'eclipse' directory. But I was
afraid to install this on top
of my existing Fedora-9's eclipse for fear of trashing the whole package
- worst - that I would

be unable to remove anything with yum remove.

Is there a Fedora (8-9) link somewhere to get a newbie perspective on
how eclipse
ought to be installed and in the proper way? Also, perhaps to catch up
on what other

packages are available that can be install within Fedora's Eclipse.

Again, I am clueless although the Windoes version is very clear to me
and I have
primarily used Eclipse there for developing - just that I am unfamiliar
with the

nuances on Fedora - and would like to start using Eclipse on Fedora.

Thanks for taking the time with me!
Dan

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Old 09-04-2008, 01:59 PM
Andrew Overholt
 
Default F9: Eclipse problems found

Hi,

* Dan Thurman <dant@cdkkt.com> [2008-09-03 18:09]:
> Can I simply download just about any package from the
> Eclipse.org site, download it, and simply overlay it on
> top of the existing eclipse directory depending on if the

Just put it in your home directory. Pick one of the Ganymede bundles
that includes the stuff you want to try.

> You say 'old' update manager - are you referring to the Update

The Update Manager from Eclipse <= 3.3. There's a new one in 3.4 which
will be in Fedora 10. It is being actively developed and we're trying
to ensure it works for our RPM case.

>> In the future, please file bugs for potential issues you find. Thanks.
>>
> But I was not sure these are 'bugs' per-se but rather clueless which
> is why I posted here to get a better understanding of what is going
> on before filing a bug when it is not really a bug, but ignorance on
> my part.

Understood

> - worst - that I would
> be unable to remove anything with yum remove.

If you just explode the tarball somewhere in your home directory, it
will be self-contained.

> Is there a Fedora (8-9) link somewhere to get a newbie perspective on
> how eclipse ought to be installed and in the proper way?

Eclipse is hard to get right for everyone. Fedora provides RPMs of the
SDK and some plugins that are popular/useful/etc. These don't work for
everyone, it's impossible to support every plugin out there, etc. Hence
me suggesting you try an upstream download to see if it suits your needs
better.

If you're just using our RPMs, things *should* work and you *should* be
able to install plugins seamlessly, etc. Mucking with files in the
installation or doing things as root causes issues.

If you were able to download and install an eclipse.org offering on
Windows, you should be able to do the same on Linux (be it Fedora or
whatever).

> Thanks for taking the time with me!

Any time.

Andrew

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