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Old 05-10-2011, 03:19 PM
Michael Cronenworth
 
Default Drop Pino from default list for Fedora 15

Dokuro wrote:
> still future is future, is there a link with the info?
>

Please, do not top post.

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Old 05-10-2011, 03:19 PM
Michael Cronenworth
 
Default Drop Pino from default list for Fedora 15

Dokuro wrote:
> still future is future, is there a link with the info?
>

Please, do not top post.

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Old 05-10-2011, 03:21 PM
Elad
 
Default Drop Pino from default list for Fedora 15

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On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Dokuro <dario.soto@gmail.com> wrote:
> still future is future, is there a link with the info?
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Elad <elad@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> Even if you will, it won't make it in time for F15.
>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Dokuro <dario.soto@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> how do i submit it to be packaged?
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Bastien Nocera <bnocera@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 09:52 -0430, Dokuro wrote:
>>>>> if you would like to try a good one, how about turpial,
>>>>> http://turpial.org.ve/downloads/
>>>>
>>>> It's not packaged in Fedora.
>>>>
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Old 05-10-2011, 03:21 PM
Elad
 
Default Drop Pino from default list for Fedora 15

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On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Dokuro <dario.soto@gmail.com> wrote:
> still future is future, is there a link with the info?
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Elad <elad@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> Even if you will, it won't make it in time for F15.
>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Dokuro <dario.soto@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> how do i submit it to be packaged?
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Bastien Nocera <bnocera@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 09:52 -0430, Dokuro wrote:
>>>>> if you would like to try a good one, how about turpial,
>>>>> http://turpial.org.ve/downloads/
>>>>
>>>> It's not packaged in Fedora.
>>>>
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>>>
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>>> I need no anti-virus, I use a GNU/Linux, a Free Operative System!
>>> Je necesite pas de anti-virus, parce que j'utilice a GNU/Linux OS
>>> completment libre!
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Old 05-10-2011, 03:49 PM
Rahul Sundaram
 
Default Drop Pino from default list for Fedora 15

On 05/10/2011 08:18 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>
> This could be done either in comps (remove it as a default package
> in graphical internet) or in the kickstart. Do you have a bug reference
> that we could point to for blocker or nice-to-have status?

Nothing that would block the release but certainly important issues
nevertheless

Twitter doesn't work
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629192

Streams don't refresh
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694730

Menu items aside from "New account" are missing
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694732

There are many more but these should be enough justification

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Old 05-10-2011, 04:07 PM
Adam Williamson
 
Default Drop Pino from default list for Fedora 15

On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 21:19 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/10/2011 08:18 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> >
> > This could be done either in comps (remove it as a default package
> > in graphical internet) or in the kickstart. Do you have a bug reference
> > that we could point to for blocker or nice-to-have status?
>
> Nothing that would block the release but certainly important issues
> nevertheless
>
> Twitter doesn't work
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629192
>
> Streams don't refresh
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694730
>
> Menu items aside from "New account" are missing
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694732
>
> There are many more but these should be enough justification

Throw a Blocks: f15-accepted on the first one.
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:08 PM
Adam Williamson
 
Default Drop Pino from default list for Fedora 15

On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 09:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 21:19 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > On 05/10/2011 08:18 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > >
> > > This could be done either in comps (remove it as a default package
> > > in graphical internet) or in the kickstart. Do you have a bug reference
> > > that we could point to for blocker or nice-to-have status?
> >
> > Nothing that would block the release but certainly important issues
> > nevertheless
> >
> > Twitter doesn't work
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629192
> >
> > Streams don't refresh
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694730
> >
> > Menu items aside from "New account" are missing
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694732
> >
> > There are many more but these should be enough justification
>
> Throw a Blocks: f15-accepted on the first one.

Scratch that, in fact, make it f15blocker. per the criteria, if a
default app is completely useless, that's a blocker:

"All applications listed under the Applications menu or category must
withstand a basic functionality test and not crash after a few minutes
of normal use. They must also have working Help and Help -> About menu
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:21 PM
Filipe Rosset
 
Default Drop Pino from default list for Fedora 15

Em 10-05-2011 13:08, Adam Williamson escreveu:
> On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 09:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 21:19 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>> On 05/10/2011 08:18 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This could be done either in comps (remove it as a default package
>>>> in graphical internet) or in the kickstart. Do you have a bug reference
>>>> that we could point to for blocker or nice-to-have status?
>>>
>>> Nothing that would block the release but certainly important issues
>>> nevertheless
>>>
>>> Twitter doesn't work
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629192
>>>
>>> Streams don't refresh
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694730
>>>
>>> Menu items aside from "New account" are missing
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694732
>>>
>>> There are many more but these should be enough justification
>>
>> Throw a Blocks: f15-accepted on the first one.
>
> Scratch that, in fact, make it f15blocker. per the criteria, if a
> default app is completely useless, that's a blocker:
>
> "All applications listed under the Applications menu or category must
> withstand a basic functionality test and not crash after a few minutes
> of normal use. They must also have working Help and Help -> About menu
> items"

Hi guys,

I'm the pino maintainer on Fedora. I'm extremely disappointed with the
pino upstream development, looks like it was abandoned.

Unfortunately I'm not a vala developer and I can't maintain pino without
a great support from upstream (there are a lot of open bugs without some
action by upstream [1]

I'd like to remove pino from default F15 installation for while, and if
the upstream project increase the quality of pino we can put it back in
future releases.

[1] http://code.google.com/p/pino-twitter/issues/list

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Old 05-10-2011, 04:21 PM
Matthias Clasen
 
Default Drop Pino from default list for Fedora 15

On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 23:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
> As a co-maintainer, I would note that it is not in a very usable state
> and upstream is not going to fix these issues in time for the Fedora 15
> release. You can replace it with Hotot or Gwibber if it is better or if
> it too late to be doing this, just not ship with a micro blogging client
> at all and evaluate one of the options for the next release. Thanks

I would be opposed to pulling an entirely new app in the spin at this
point, but dropping pino is fine with me.

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Old 05-10-2011, 04:25 PM
Bill Nottingham
 
Default Drop Pino from default list for Fedora 15

Matthias Clasen (mclasen@redhat.com) said:
> On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 23:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > As a co-maintainer, I would note that it is not in a very usable state
> > and upstream is not going to fix these issues in time for the Fedora 15
> > release. You can replace it with Hotot or Gwibber if it is better or if
> > it too late to be doing this, just not ship with a micro blogging client
> > at all and evaluate one of the options for the next release. Thanks
>
> I would be opposed to pulling an entirely new app in the spin at this
> point, but dropping pino is fine with me.

Done.

Bill
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