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Old 02-27-2011, 04:49 AM
Adam Williamson
 
Default F15 Alpha RC2 available for desktop validation

Hey, folks - just a note that Alpha RC2 is now available:

http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/15-Alpha.RC2/

and help to fill out the desktop validation tests:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_15_Alpha_RC2_Desktop

would be greatly welcome. As always, just follow the instructions in the
test cases and record your results in the tables, and let me know if you
have any trouble or questions.

If anyone's wondering about LXDE, it hasn't been spun yet because gmixer
was orphaned; we should sort that out with rel-eng.

Thanks everyone!
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Old 02-27-2011, 08:18 PM
Dagan McGregor
 
Default F15 Alpha RC2 available for desktop validation

On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:49:43 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hey, folks - just a note that Alpha RC2 is now available:
>
> http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/15-Alpha.RC2/
>
> and help to fill out the desktop validation tests:
>
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_15_Alpha_RC2_Desktop
>
> would be greatly welcome. As always, just follow the instructions in
> the
> test cases and record your results in the tables, and let me know if
> you
> have any trouble or questions.
> assassin.net

Do we log bugs against the Alpha RC2 in Bugzilla?

I noticed on my two machines, issues with loading the live image
related to graphics problems. Both of my machines have fairly modern ATI
cards, and I believe it might be a combination of packages.

My laptop is currently running latest packages from Rawhide, and only
time I've had this sort of problem was 2.6.38-rc5 kernel package. The
-rc4 and -rc6 packages both work.

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Old 02-28-2011, 01:30 AM
Adam Williamson
 
Default F15 Alpha RC2 available for desktop validation

On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 10:18 +1300, Dagan McGregor wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:49:43 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Hey, folks - just a note that Alpha RC2 is now available:
> >
> > http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/15-Alpha.RC2/
> >
> > and help to fill out the desktop validation tests:
> >
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_15_Alpha_RC2_Desktop
> >
> > would be greatly welcome. As always, just follow the instructions in
> > the
> > test cases and record your results in the tables, and let me know if
> > you
> > have any trouble or questions.
> > assassin.net
>
> Do we log bugs against the Alpha RC2 in Bugzilla?

Yep. Just like Rawhide in that respect. If they constitute breakages of
any of the validation test cases, mark that case as {{result|fail|
yournick|bugnumber}} in the results table.

> I noticed on my two machines, issues with loading the live image
> related to graphics problems. Both of my machines have fairly modern ATI
> cards, and I believe it might be a combination of packages.
>
> My laptop is currently running latest packages from Rawhide, and only
> time I've had this sort of problem was 2.6.38-rc5 kernel package. The
> -rc4 and -rc6 packages both work.

Rawhide isn't F15 any more...
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:44 AM
Dagan McGregor
 
Default F15 Alpha RC2 available for desktop validation

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:30:22 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 10:18 +1300, Dagan McGregor wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:49:43 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> > Hey, folks - just a note that Alpha RC2 is now available:
>> >
>> > http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/15-Alpha.RC2/
>> >
>> > and help to fill out the desktop validation tests:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_15_Alpha_RC2_Desktop
>> >
>> > would be greatly welcome. As always, just follow the instructions
>> in
>> > the
>> > test cases and record your results in the tables, and let me know
>> if
>> > you
>> > have any trouble or questions.
>> > assassin.net
>>
>> Do we log bugs against the Alpha RC2 in Bugzilla?
>
> Yep. Just like Rawhide in that respect. If they constitute breakages
> of
> any of the validation test cases, mark that case as {{result|fail|
> yournick|bugnumber}} in the results table.
>

OK, I will do some more testing and log some bugs with any messages I
can gather.

>> I noticed on my two machines, issues with loading the live image
>> related to graphics problems. Both of my machines have fairly
>> modern ATI
>> cards, and I believe it might be a combination of packages.
>>
>> My laptop is currently running latest packages from Rawhide, and
>> only
>> time I've had this sort of problem was 2.6.38-rc5 kernel package.
>> The
>> -rc4 and -rc6 packages both work.
>
> Rawhide isn't F15 any more...

Yes I noticed the -rc6 kernel package was bumped to .fc16 but the
previous -rc4 and -rc5 kernel packages were .fc15

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Old 02-28-2011, 03:22 PM
"Clyde E. Kunkel"
 
Default F15 Alpha RC2 available for desktop validation

On 02/27/2011 12:49 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hey, folks - just a note that Alpha RC2 is now available:
>
> http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/15-Alpha.RC2/
>
> and help to fill out the desktop validation tests:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_15_Alpha_RC2_Desktop
>
> would be greatly welcome. As always, just follow the instructions in the
> test cases and record your results in the tables, and let me know if you
> have any trouble or questions.
>
> If anyone's wondering about LXDE, it hasn't been spun yet because gmixer
> was orphaned; we should sort that out with rel-eng.
>
> Thanks everyone!

I take it we test RC2 BEFORE applying updates-testing? Wondering if
that is time-effective since the updates break things in various ways.
Maybe a RC3 with fixes to the updates better serves our use of time?

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Old 02-28-2011, 03:32 PM
Adam Williamson
 
Default F15 Alpha RC2 available for desktop validation

On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 11:22 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> On 02/27/2011 12:49 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Hey, folks - just a note that Alpha RC2 is now available:
> >
> > http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/15-Alpha.RC2/
> >
> > and help to fill out the desktop validation tests:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_15_Alpha_RC2_Desktop
> >
> > would be greatly welcome. As always, just follow the instructions in the
> > test cases and record your results in the tables, and let me know if you
> > have any trouble or questions.
> >
> > If anyone's wondering about LXDE, it hasn't been spun yet because gmixer
> > was orphaned; we should sort that out with rel-eng.
> >
> > Thanks everyone!
>
> I take it we test RC2 BEFORE applying updates-testing?

Yes.

> Wondering if
> that is time-effective since the updates break things in various ways.

Yes, it is, because what we will release is RC2 (assuming no more
blockers are discovered in testing). We freeze the tree expressly to
allow us to test a set of code which isn't being changed every five
minutes.

> Maybe a RC3 with fixes to the updates better serves our use of time?

No. If we didn't freeze the tree and just kept spinning with the latest
changes anyone wanted to throw at it, we'd never get something
releaseable. We always release (both pre-releases and final releases)
with code that is significantly 'behind' what's in updates-testing at
the time, this is how the process is intended to work.
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:46 AM
Dagan McGregor
 
Default F15 Alpha RC2 available for desktop validation

On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:49:43 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hey, folks - just a note that Alpha RC2 is now available:
>
> http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/15-Alpha.RC2/
>
> and help to fill out the desktop validation tests:
>
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_15_Alpha_RC2_Desktop

I checked through Bugzilla, and there is a bug report from the Radeon
Test Day noting the same issue I have, with the 2.6.38-rc5 kernel
package

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680118

It's marked as a kernel bug, I think it should be changed to
xorg-x11-drv-ati, but I do believe fixes applied to -rc6 kernel release
resolve these issues, which I've added as a comment to the bug.

Cheers,
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