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Old 02-01-2011, 06:40 AM
"Jˇhann B. Gu­mundsson"
 
Default Status of bluetooth in Gnome3

What's the current status of Bluetooth in Gnome3

I performed Gnome 3 show and tell last Saturday and after finally
managing to pair the device Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless bluetooth
Keyboard the keyboard did not work.

It took 3 tries since the time I had to enter all those numbers and the
time the pairing timed out seem to be a bit short.

Now I'm not sure what policy you guys have for Bluetooth devices but I
hope that you dont expect that users can enter "code" on all of them for
example I have a Bluetooth GPS module that when pairing uses the default
0000 or 01234 ( I cant recall at the moment but it's one of those common
defaults ) so I would have no way on the device to entered some kind of
number to pair it together with the laptop.

We might want to add few bluetooth testcases to our test days to cover a
bit bluetooth devices ( pairing and using phones keyboard mice etc ).

JBG
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:08 AM
Bastien Nocera
 
Default Status of bluetooth in Gnome3

On Tue, 2011-02-01 at 07:40 +0000, "Jˇhann B. Gu­mundsson" wrote:
> What's the current status of Bluetooth in Gnome3
>
> I performed Gnome 3 show and tell last Saturday and after finally
> managing to pair the device Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless bluetooth
> Keyboard the keyboard did not work.
>
> It took 3 tries since the time I had to enter all those numbers and the
> time the pairing timed out seem to be a bit short.

It's usually the remote device that times out.

> Now I'm not sure what policy you guys have for Bluetooth devices but I
> hope that you dont expect that users can enter "code" on all of them for
> example I have a Bluetooth GPS module that when pairing uses the default
> 0000 or 01234 ( I cant recall at the moment but it's one of those common
> defaults ) so I would have no way on the device to entered some kind of
> number to pair it together with the laptop.

"PIN options..." button in the device search page. And despite it being
pretty prominent in the interface, people still don't see it. I'm
guessing that that calls for the changes in:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=597572

> We might want to add few bluetooth testcases to our test days to cover a
> bit bluetooth devices ( pairing and using phones keyboard mice etc ).
>
> JBG


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Old 02-01-2011, 11:27 AM
"Jˇhann B. Gu­mundsson"
 
Default Status of bluetooth in Gnome3

On 02/01/2011 12:08 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> It's usually the remote device that times out.

Good to know perhaps you might want to reduce the numbers that need to
be entered in that case I personally feel that you might be over
engineering the pairing of the bluetooth devices from security perspective.

On the actual status of bluetooth in Gnome 3 is the keyboard supposed to
work on current state?

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Old 02-01-2011, 02:35 PM
Bastien Nocera
 
Default Status of bluetooth in Gnome3

On Tue, 2011-02-01 at 12:27 +0000, "Jˇhann B. Gu­mundsson" wrote:
> On 02/01/2011 12:08 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > It's usually the remote device that times out.
>
> Good to know perhaps you might want to reduce the numbers that need to
> be entered in that case I personally feel that you might be over
> engineering the pairing of the bluetooth devices from security perspective.

6 digits is what is recommended in the Bluetooth docs, which is why we
use 6 digits.

> On the actual status of bluetooth in Gnome 3 is the keyboard supposed to
> work on current state?

It should even work without GNOME 3. I don't see how the desktop
environment is relevant. If the device is timing out when pairing,
you'll probably want to try the latest bluez and kernel, and file a bug
there instead.

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Old 02-01-2011, 03:39 PM
"Jˇhann B. Gu­mundsson"
 
Default Status of bluetooth in Gnome3

On 02/01/2011 03:35 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-02-01 at 12:27 +0000, "Jˇhann B. Gu­mundsson" wrote:
>> On 02/01/2011 12:08 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>>> It's usually the remote device that times out.
>> Good to know perhaps you might want to reduce the numbers that need to
>> be entered in that case I personally feel that you might be over
>> engineering the pairing of the bluetooth devices from security perspective.
> 6 digits is what is recommended in the Bluetooth docs, which is why we
> use 6 digits.

Ok I see..

>> On the actual status of bluetooth in Gnome 3 is the keyboard supposed to
>> work on current state?
> It should even work without GNOME 3. I don't see how the desktop
> environment is relevant. If the device is timing out when pairing,
> you'll probably want to try the latest bluez and kernel, and file a bug
> there instead.
>

I did pair the device ( on third try ) and the keyboard did not work
after pairing hence I suspected this might have been Gnome Shell changes
related.

I'll debug it further and try it with the latest .38 and then with .37
kernel to see if it makes any changes.

Thanx for the info

JBG

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