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Old 04-21-2010, 04:02 PM
William Jon McCann
 
Default Updates next steps

Hey folks,

We discussed this a bit on IRC yesterday but I wanted to bring it up
on the list too.

Now that we have rough consensus that we should try to limit the
volume of "pointless" updates, what is next?

I propose we look at two things right away:

1. Limit the frequency of non-critical updates to once per week in
stable releases

2. Establish norms or rules that limit the types of changes in stable
releases to ensure the releases remain stable

A concrete example of the kind of thing that I think we should try to avoid:
Two days ago I installed updates for F12 (over a hundred random
updates) then yesterday I noticed a lot more udpates (40ish) that
included an update for vala 0.8.0 with the description "Update to new
major release 0.8.0".

Longer term, I'd like to see a more comprehensive plan similar to
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Desktop/Whiteboards/UpdateExperience but
we probably need to work towards that incrementally.

Thoughts? What is the best way to accomplish these two things?

Jon
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Old 04-21-2010, 04:43 PM
Jesse Keating
 
Default Updates next steps

On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 12:02 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote:
>
> 1. Limit the frequency of non-critical updates to once per week in
> stable releases
>
>

This gets pretty difficult to manage if we want to insert any testing of
the proposed update set to be pushed out. It increases the number of
potential push sets, per release, which increases the complexity quite a
bit in the depchecking routines.

I'm not saying it's something we shouldn't do, I'm just saying that it's
going to make something significantly more complex to manage.

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