On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:09 PM, John Poelstra <email@example.com> wrote:
> William Jon McCann said the following on 02/10/2010
>> We should try not to be haters because Ubuntu is doing so well. *They
>> are really focusing as a project - that is commendable. *And something
>> that so far Fedora has failed to do - actually *refused* to do.
>> We should also probably consider debranding Fedora hosted so it isn't
>> as distasteful to people looking for a sourceforge alternative.
>> This is all well within reach folks. *Just have to make the right choices.
> Well put!
> Any idea on how do we help Fedora to *make some choices* and focus?
> It seems to me that is where we are most stuck.
> It seems that people are either critical of "choices being made for them" or
> too afraid of wrong choices being made by others. *That puts the people in
> leadership in a "loose loose" situation.
Yup, I know. It isn't easy. There is a simple glib answer and it is
something like "it takes some guts." But then the more complete and
compelling answer is unfortunately also much more complicated. We
should chat sometime. Do you ever come to Westford?
There are dozens of decisions made or that should be made every day as
we think about what experiences we want to provide. Every day I have
a list of literally dozens of things that I could use help with as we
try to design the experience of using Fedora. I'd really love to be
able to get help from the Project for these things. Sadly, when we
ask, more often than not we get responses of the form - "that's fine
if Desktop wants that but Fedora is something else."
Making decisions is hard. We know this. Any decision has the
potential to fail - this is true. However, failing to make decisions
(out of fear) will simply guarantee failure or even worse - render you
completely irrelevant. For now, the world trusts us and looks to us
to lead. They expect it and it is our job. This trust is a great
responsibility that none of us take lightly. But it won't last
It is really unfortunate that at the same time so many of us are
leaders in the larger open source world - we have failed to gain the
support of our own project. I think there is plenty of blame to go
around - on all sides - including mine. It is a heartbreaking
I don't really understand what all the fuss is about, to be honest. I
look around and I don't really see that many incompatible points of
view. Not that many truly compelling alternative visions. Sure, lots
of bickering and sniping and personality conflicts and grudges. Far
too much of that. But what else, once you look past that?
Do we really disagree that Fedora can and should be the best general
purpose Operating System (not distro) in the world? At the heart of
it I think we all agree on that. Do we need a target audience for
that? Honestly, I doubt it. Does this mean we have to cater to a
certain type of person? Of course not. An Operating System is one of
the most easily adaptable technologies ever developed. That isn't the
The real challenge we face is: can we be relevant? Can we prove that
desktop Linux has legs beyond techno geeks, outside the niche, outside
the server room? I'll tell you right now, the answer is no - unless
we can all work together. And I think it is time we start.
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