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Old 07-10-2008, 01:44 PM
Jesse Keating
 
Default Unexpected shutdown... what?

Every single time I log out of gnome or shut down / reboot from the
gnome menu a few of my apps act as if they were kill -9'd and throw up
recovery messages that frighten/confuse users. Why? Why can't we as we
log out/shut down 'cleanly' close these applications? Why must
everything be 'dirty' upon login?

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Old 07-10-2008, 01:53 PM
Matthias Clasen
 
Default Unexpected shutdown... what?

On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 09:44 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote:
> Every single time I log out of gnome or shut down / reboot from the
> gnome menu a few of my apps act as if they were kill -9'd and throw up
> recovery messages that frighten/confuse users. Why? Why can't we as we
> log out/shut down 'cleanly' close these applications? Why must
> everything be 'dirty' upon login?

Session management is in a somewhat broken state right now.
I've sent my emissaries to Guadec to sort things out...



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Old 07-13-2008, 11:41 AM
Kjartan Maraas
 
Default Unexpected shutdown... what?

to., 10.07.2008 kl. 09.53 -0400, skrev Matthias Clasen:
> On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 09:44 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > Every single time I log out of gnome or shut down / reboot from the
> > gnome menu a few of my apps act as if they were kill -9'd and throw up
> > recovery messages that frighten/confuse users. Why? Why can't we as we
> > log out/shut down 'cleanly' close these applications? Why must
> > everything be 'dirty' upon login?
>
> Session management is in a somewhat broken state right now.
> I've sent my emissaries to Guadec to sort things out...
>
Is this also the reason why I can't see the reboot and shut down buttons
when I choose System->Shut down?

The dialog that opens just has Hibernate, Suspend and Cancel buttons.

Cheers
Kjartan


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Old 07-13-2008, 04:51 PM
Stewart Adam
 
Default Unexpected shutdown... what?

On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 13:41 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
> Is this also the reason why I can't see the reboot and shut down buttons
> when I choose System->Shut down?
>
> The dialog that opens just has Hibernate, Suspend and Cancel buttons.
>
> Cheers
> Kjartan
>
I see that too, my workaround has been to logout then click "Shutdown" in GDM...

Stewart

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Old 07-14-2008, 02:27 PM
Matthias Clasen
 
Default Unexpected shutdown... what?

On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 13:41 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
> to., 10.07.2008 kl. 09.53 -0400, skrev Matthias Clasen:
> > On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 09:44 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > > Every single time I log out of gnome or shut down / reboot from the
> > > gnome menu a few of my apps act as if they were kill -9'd and throw up
> > > recovery messages that frighten/confuse users. Why? Why can't we as we
> > > log out/shut down 'cleanly' close these applications? Why must
> > > everything be 'dirty' upon login?
> >
> > Session management is in a somewhat broken state right now.
> > I've sent my emissaries to Guadec to sort things out...
> >
> Is this also the reason why I can't see the reboot and shut down buttons
> when I choose System->Shut down?
>
> The dialog that opens just has Hibernate, Suspend and Cancel buttons.

Yes, same reason.

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Old 07-17-2008, 09:30 PM
Will Woods
 
Default Unexpected shutdown... what?

On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 10:27 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 13:41 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
> > to., 10.07.2008 kl. 09.53 -0400, skrev Matthias Clasen:
> > > On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 09:44 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > > > Every single time I log out of gnome or shut down / reboot from the
> > > > gnome menu a few of my apps act as if they were kill -9'd and throw up
> > > > recovery messages that frighten/confuse users. Why? Why can't we as we
> > > > log out/shut down 'cleanly' close these applications? Why must
> > > > everything be 'dirty' upon login?
> > >
> > > Session management is in a somewhat broken state right now.
> > > I've sent my emissaries to Guadec to sort things out...
> > >
> > Is this also the reason why I can't see the reboot and shut down buttons
> > when I choose System->Shut down?
> >
> > The dialog that opens just has Hibernate, Suspend and Cancel buttons.
>
> Yes, same reason.

There's a bug filed about it:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452639

Matthias, could you look at that bug and see if it's filed in the right
place (it's currently against gnome-panel), and (if possible) give an
update on the status? It's something I'd like to see fixed for
F10Alpha..

Thanks!

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Old 07-27-2008, 12:17 AM
Kjartan Maraas
 
Default Unexpected shutdown... what?

to., 17.07.2008 kl. 17.30 -0400, skrev Will Woods:
> On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 10:27 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 13:41 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
> > > to., 10.07.2008 kl. 09.53 -0400, skrev Matthias Clasen:
> > > > On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 09:44 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > > > > Every single time I log out of gnome or shut down / reboot from the
> > > > > gnome menu a few of my apps act as if they were kill -9'd and throw up
> > > > > recovery messages that frighten/confuse users. Why? Why can't we as we
> > > > > log out/shut down 'cleanly' close these applications? Why must
> > > > > everything be 'dirty' upon login?
> > > >
> > > > Session management is in a somewhat broken state right now.
> > > > I've sent my emissaries to Guadec to sort things out...
> > > >
> > > Is this also the reason why I can't see the reboot and shut down buttons
> > > when I choose System->Shut down?
> > >
> > > The dialog that opens just has Hibernate, Suspend and Cancel buttons.
> >
> > Yes, same reason.
>
> There's a bug filed about it:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452639
>
> Matthias, could you look at that bug and see if it's filed in the right
> place (it's currently against gnome-panel), and (if possible) give an
> update on the status? It's something I'd like to see fixed for
> F10Alpha..
>
It seems to work as expected for me now. Thanks.

Cheers
Kjartan


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