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Colin Walters 12-02-2007 06:48 PM

Firefox 3 feature
 
Hi,

I tossed up a Feature page for Fx3:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureFirefox3

I put my and Chris' name on it. Tentatively thinking of making a branch
in CVS where we could collaborate on it and do koji scratch builds from;
any opinions on that?


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David Zeuthen 12-02-2007 09:19 PM

Firefox 3 feature
 
On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 14:48 -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tossed up a Feature page for Fx3:
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureFirefox3
>
> I put my and Chris' name on it. Tentatively thinking of making a branch
> in CVS where we could collaborate on it and do koji scratch builds from;
> any opinions on that?

I, for one, would like to see this; there's so much good stuff in FF3.
Are you also planning to land Prism? Or is that a separate feature?
Thanks!

David


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Matthias Clasen 12-02-2007 11:16 PM

Firefox 3 feature
 
On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 17:19 -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 14:48 -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I tossed up a Feature page for Fx3:
> >
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureFirefox3
> >
> > I put my and Chris' name on it. Tentatively thinking of making a branch
> > in CVS where we could collaborate on it and do koji scratch builds from;
> > any opinions on that?
>
> I, for one, would like to see this; there's so much good stuff in FF3.
> Are you also planning to land Prism? Or is that a separate feature?
> Thanks!

Chris is on top of this, I believe.

He said they'd start looking into FF3 as soon as the xulrunner
conversion is done.

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Christopher Aillon 12-03-2007 11:14 AM

Firefox 3 feature
 
On 12/02/2007 08:48 PM, Colin Walters wrote:

Hi,

I tossed up a Feature page for Fx3:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureFirefox3

I put my and Chris' name on it. Tentatively thinking of making a branch
in CVS where we could collaborate on it and do koji scratch builds from;
any opinions on that?


Help with rebuilding the stack against xulrunner. As soon as we're no
longer relying on firefox 2 for our apps, and built against xulrunner,
we'll simply rebase. No need for branches.


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Matej Cepl 12-03-2007 11:24 AM

Firefox 3 feature
 
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:48:01 -0500, Colin Walters scripst:

> Hi,
>
> I tossed up a Feature page for Fx3:
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureFirefox3
>
> I put my and Chris' name on it. Tentatively thinking of making a branch
> in CVS where we could collaborate on it and do koji scratch builds from;
> any opinions on that?

That it is useless IMHO -- FF3 is very high on the Chris' and Martin's
TODO list.

Matěj

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Colin Walters 12-03-2007 02:03 PM

Firefox 3 feature
 
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 13:24 +0100, Matej Cepl wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:48:01 -0500, Colin Walters scripst:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I tossed up a Feature page for Fx3:
> >
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureFirefox3
> >
> > I put my and Chris' name on it. Tentatively thinking of making a branch
> > in CVS where we could collaborate on it and do koji scratch builds from;
> > any opinions on that?
>
> That it is useless IMHO -- FF3 is very high on the Chris' and Martin's
> TODO list.

Having the feature is useless? Or a branch?

The reason I created it is because it isn't actually as trivial as just
changing everything to XulRunner and updating the Firefox package - we
do ship Firefox extensions (at least in Mugshot, perhaps elsewhere) and
plugins (e.g. Totem) that will require testing and possibly porting.
Actually I know Mugshot will need a bit of porting to pick up the new
cookie file format (http://bugzilla.mugshot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1307).



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drago01 12-03-2007 02:48 PM

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Colin Walters wrote:

On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 13:24 +0100, Matej Cepl wrote:


On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:48:01 -0500, Colin Walters scripst:



Hi,

I tossed up a Feature page for Fx3:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureFirefox3

I put my and Chris' name on it. Tentatively thinking of making a branch
in CVS where we could collaborate on it and do koji scratch builds from;
any opinions on that?

That it is useless IMHO -- FF3 is very high on the Chris' and Martin's
TODO list.



Having the feature is useless? Or a branch?

The reason I created it is because it isn't actually as trivial as just
changing everything to XulRunner and updating the Firefox package - we
do ship Firefox extensions (at least in Mugshot, perhaps elsewhere)

afaik beagle too

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Thorsten Leemhuis 12-03-2007 03:09 PM

Firefox 3 feature
 
On 03.12.2007 16:03, Colin Walters wrote:
> The reason I created it is because it isn't actually as trivial as just
> changing everything to XulRunner and updating the Firefox package - we
> do ship Firefox extensions (at least in Mugshot, perhaps elsewhere)

I don't think we ship any besides Mugshot -- and if I'm wrong on that
I'm sure they are very rare because we have no guidelines for packaging
them. Some packages with extensions were put up for review but they iirc
got stuck.

Which brings me to my question: Does anyone know if Firefox 3 makes it
easier to package extensions (that was planed iirc)? Should we prepare
guidelines for packaging extensions?

CU
knurd

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Colin Walters 12-03-2007 03:39 PM

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On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 17:09 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> On 03.12.2007 16:03, Colin Walters wrote:
> > The reason I created it is because it isn't actually as trivial as just
> > changing everything to XulRunner and updating the Firefox package - we
> > do ship Firefox extensions (at least in Mugshot, perhaps elsewhere)
>
> I don't think we ship any besides Mugshot --

drago01 pointed out Beagle. As an aside, we need a
search-across-all-package-content system.

> Which brings me to my question: Does anyone know if Firefox 3 makes it
> easier to package extensions (that was planed iirc)? Should we prepare
> guidelines for packaging extensions?

I don't think there were any changes to the extension mechanism
specifically for this (I could be wrong though), but if we do work on
this would make a lot of sense to design the system in the context of
upstream.

Realistically the Firefox binary has to be aware of the distinction
between system managed and per-user extensions. I don't think it is
right now, because at least currently it seems that Firefox tries to
find updates to all the localization packages we install, which is wrong
because they're managed by the system. (Incidentally this also seems to
be part of the reason Firefox is so slow to start the first time).

There would need to be UI changes in the addon manager to mark which are
system managed vs not, etc.


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Bastien Nocera 12-03-2007 03:51 PM

Firefox 3 feature
 
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 10:03 -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 13:24 +0100, Matej Cepl wrote:
> > On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:48:01 -0500, Colin Walters scripst:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I tossed up a Feature page for Fx3:
> > >
> > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureFirefox3
> > >
> > > I put my and Chris' name on it. Tentatively thinking of making a branch
> > > in CVS where we could collaborate on it and do koji scratch builds from;
> > > any opinions on that?
> >
> > That it is useless IMHO -- FF3 is very high on the Chris' and Martin's
> > TODO list.
>
> Having the feature is useless? Or a branch?
>
> The reason I created it is because it isn't actually as trivial as just
> changing everything to XulRunner and updating the Firefox package - we
> do ship Firefox extensions (at least in Mugshot, perhaps elsewhere) and
> plugins (e.g. Totem) that will require testing and possibly porting.
> Actually I know Mugshot will need a bit of porting to pick up the new
> cookie file format (http://bugzilla.mugshot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1307).

Plugins should "just work". They should work for both XulRunner-based
apps and FF3 once compiled against XulRunner. Otherwise porting to
XulRunner is a bit pointless...

Totem in rawhide is already compiled against XulRunner.

It's just the extensions that would have problems.

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