I wanted to ask about two things, backgrounds and other art.
BACKGROUNDS:
I noticed that Martin produced a package of the leonidas-backgrounds,
and F10 users can test it now if they want:
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/leonidas-backgrounds/10.92.1/2.fc11/noarch/leonidas-backgrounds-10.92.1-2.fc11.noarch.rpm
I've tried it here on my F10 box and the package works perfectly.
(And frankly, I think it's quite lovely, although I have a bit of a
problem making out my blue-themed folder icons against the color of
the sky sometimes.) Has anyone had a chance to announce this to
whatever population we want to test the backgrounds and report back?
Do they know what kind of feedback the Artwork team is looking for?
OTHER ART:
According to the F11 schedule:
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-art-tasks
...splashes and banners are something the Artwork team creates from
now until about March 27, two weeks or so from tomorrow. Then they're
packaged by March 31, so that they can be tagged and included in the
Preview Release.
The listed splashes, headers and other art scheduled for March 27
includes:
Is the listed date of March 27 enough time to produce these various
derivations?
* * *
BTW, the item of creating the Beta Website Banner is listed as to be
completed by March 20, and given the previous thread on this list, it
looks like that's well underway. Superb! I'm looking forward to
another incredibly beautiful release thanks to the talent and hard
work you guys apply to each new Fedora.
I wanted to ask about two things, backgrounds and other art.
BACKGROUNDS:
I noticed that Martin produced a package of the leonidas-backgrounds,
and F10 users can test it now if they want:
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/leonidas-backgrounds/10.92.1/2.fc11/noarch/leonidas-backgrounds-10.92.1-2.fc11.noarch.rpm
I've tried it here on my F10 box and the package works perfectly.
(And frankly, I think it's quite lovely, although I have a bit of a
problem making out my blue-themed folder icons against the color of
the sky sometimes.) Has anyone had a chance to announce this to
whatever population we want to test the backgrounds and report back?
Do they know what kind of feedback the Artwork team is looking for?
I definitely mentioned it on FWN and also Martin blogged (so it was
pushed to planet)
OTHER ART:
According to the F11 schedule:
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-art-tasks
...splashes and banners are something the Artwork team creates from
now until about March 27, two weeks or so from tomorrow. Then they're
packaged by March 31, so that they can be tagged and included in the
Preview Release.
The listed splashes, headers and other art scheduled for March 27
includes:
* GNOME splash screen
Lately we didn't bother with this as it is disabled by default, but I
believe in the end someone made an image.
* KDE splash screen
For the last releases the guys from the KDE got involved with that and a
splash was produced.
* GNOME screensaver lock dialog
Another one disabled by default. Even more, it is on its way to
obsolence, it will be replaced by the GDM screen (however, I can't say
when, the Desktop guys are not very talkative about that).
* Fullscreen splash for syslinux
* Square splash for anaconda and firstboot
* Anaconda horizontal header
* Firstboot vertical header
* Fullscreen grub splash
Usually those are derived from the wallpaper, so we will probably
address them after the wallpaper is in a final state.
Since we are still stuck with GRUB 1.x. the GRUB splash will be probably
the hardest, needing an original (symplified) graphic.
* Plymouth bootup/loading graphics
This area is poorly documented (is very new) but we have an "expert" in
Charlie Brej. My personal option would be to use the default background
(the temple landscape picture) and a progress bar.
* kdm login screen theme
Agian, the KDE guys will most likely take the initiative here.
Is the listed date of March 27 enough time to produce these various
derivations?
Is doable but we should not let it for the last few days.
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03-13-2009, 02:45 PM
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2009/3/13 Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro>
* Plymouth bootup/loading graphics
This area is poorly documented (is very new) but we have an "expert" in
Charlie Brej. My personal option would be to use the default background
(the temple landscape picture) and a progress bar.
It could be good to add the animation of birds that flyies in the sky while the progress bar is going...
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03-13-2009, 03:50 PM
"Paul W. Frields"
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On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 04:42:23PM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> I've tried it here on my F10 box and the package works perfectly.
>> (And frankly, I think it's quite lovely, although I have a bit of a
>> problem making out my blue-themed folder icons against the color of
>> the sky sometimes.) Has anyone had a chance to announce this to
>> whatever population we want to test the backgrounds and report back?
>> Do they know what kind of feedback the Artwork team is looking for?
>
> I definitely mentioned it on FWN and also Martin blogged (so it was
> pushed to planet)
Excellent!
It would probably be good to also indicate what kind of feedback the
Artwork team wants. Any specifics you're interested in, other than "I
like it" or "I don't like it"?
>> OTHER ART:
>>
>> According to the F11 schedule:
>> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-art-tasks
>>
>> ...splashes and banners are something the Artwork team creates from
>> now until about March 27, two weeks or so from tomorrow. Then they're
>> packaged by March 31, so that they can be tagged and included in the
>> Preview Release.
>>
>> The listed splashes, headers and other art scheduled for March 27
>> includes:
>>
>> * GNOME splash screen
>
> Lately we didn't bother with this as it is disabled by default, but I
> believe in the end someone made an image.
>
>> * KDE splash screen
>
> For the last releases the guys from the KDE got involved with that and a
> splash was produced.
>
>> * GNOME screensaver lock dialog
>
> Another one disabled by default. Even more, it is on its way to
> obsolence, it will be replaced by the GDM screen (however, I can't say
> when, the Desktop guys are not very talkative about that).
Right, this can probably be discontinued when that happens. I think
there's a few Desktop guys lurking here, maybe they can let us know
their plans....
>> * Fullscreen splash for syslinux
>> * Square splash for anaconda and firstboot
>> * Anaconda horizontal header
>> * Firstboot vertical header
>> * Fullscreen grub splash
>
> Usually those are derived from the wallpaper, so we will probably
> address them after the wallpaper is in a final state.
Does this mean the dates, as they stand, should be changed to a later
target? There's no reason for anyone like me to bother the team if
you guys really don't want to deal with these pieces until later in
the process.
If that's the case, setting a date would be a big help. Do you guys
want to have these completed for absolute code freeze, for the Preview
Release?
> Since we are still stuck with GRUB 1.x. the GRUB splash will be probably
> the hardest, needing an original (symplified) graphic.
I'm betting the cloudy sky (with or without birds, depending on the number of
color gradients needed) would work OK...
>> * Plymouth bootup/loading graphics
>
> This area is poorly documented (is very new) but we have an "expert" in
> Charlie Brej. My personal option would be to use the default background
> (the temple landscape picture) and a progress bar.
Charlie, maybe you could drop some wisdom here and/or on the wiki.
That would give more people a chance to learn how the stunning Solar
theme was produced for Plymouth. Never fails to get a whistle or a
"cool!" out of someone who's seen it...
/me envisions birds flying, or clouds drifting over landscape...
>> * kdm login screen theme
>
> Agian, the KDE guys will most likely take the initiative here.
Do we need anyone to notify them? John and I can help, if so.
>> Is the listed date of March 27 enough time to produce these various
>> derivations?
>
> Is doable but we should not let it for the last few days.
Sure. Head starts are good, which is why I wanted to bring it up, so
as not to surprise anyone late in the process! :-)
On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 16:42 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > * KDE splash screen
>
> For the last releases the guys from the KDE got involved with that and a
> splash was produced.
>
I've been talking about this one with Mo and jreznik (the guy doing all
the artwork work for KDE) over IRC. Mo produced some sample graphics, I
don't remember the address though (I could find it in Rawhide, but I'm
currently in F10). Máirín, can you post the link here?
> > * Plymouth bootup/loading graphics
>
> This area is poorly documented (is very new) but we have an "expert" in
> Charlie Brej. My personal option would be to use the default background
> (the temple landscape picture) and a progress bar.
>
Mo thinks that something simpler would be better and I agree with her on
this one. The F10 Plymouth is over too flashy.
Martin
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03-13-2009, 04:46 PM
Máirín Duffy
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----- Original Message ----
> From: Martin Sourada <martin.sourada@gmail.com>
> On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 16:42 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> > Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > > * KDE splash screen
> >
> > For the last releases the guys from the KDE got involved with that and a
> > splash was produced.
> >
> I've been talking about this one with Mo and jreznik (the guy doing all
> the artwork work for KDE) over IRC. Mo produced some sample graphics, I
> don't remember the address though (I could find it in Rawhide, but I'm
> currently in F10). Máirín, can you post the link here?
Sure thing. These are very rough, we want the bars to be a lot closer to the bottom of the screen. Hopefully I'll have time to poke at these this weekend but if anyone else has some time please feel free:
(sorry I didn't get a chance to upload them to the wiki, we were having a discussion and it was quicker for me to post them to fedorapeople.org at the time)
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03-16-2009, 06:42 AM
Nicu Buculei
Banners and splashes
Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 04:42:23PM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
Since we are still stuck with GRUB 1.x. the GRUB splash will be probably
the hardest, needing an original (symplified) graphic.
I'm betting the cloudy sky (with or without birds, depending on the number of
color gradients needed) would work OK...
The constraint with GRUB is 14 colors (16 if counting also black and
white), there is no way we can use a photorealistic image with that.
Probably a blue background and a drawing of some birds or clouds.
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Charlie Brej
Banners and splashes
Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 04:42:23PM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
Paul W. Frields wrote:
* Plymouth bootup/loading graphics
This area is poorly documented (is very new) but we have an "expert" in
Charlie Brej. My personal option would be to use the default background
(the temple landscape picture) and a progress bar.
Charlie, maybe you could drop some wisdom here and/or on the wiki.
That would give more people a chance to learn how the stunning Solar
theme was produced for Plymouth. Never fails to get a whistle or a
"cool!" out of someone who's seen it...
/me envisions birds flying, or clouds drifting over landscape...
Sorry for the late reply.
So currently the plugins are rather complicated to create as there are plenty of
holes to fall down. I could write a few words but what I think would be better
atm is to work it from the other side (i.e. make plugins really easy to make).
What I would like to do is to make a customisable plugin which has an
interprited script which allows very easy changes of what it does. The script
specifies the image locations and what movements the images take every frame.
Should be simple enough that non-programmers can do it. Over Christmas I did get
somewhere towards this but this wont be complete for a few months.
In the mean time I can easily make a new plugin with the background and have the
progress bar from mizmo [1], so long as that is what is wanted. The birds flying
away is easy to do (like [2]) but I will wait till the background settles down
and there is a common demand for something in particular (send suggestions and
if people agree I will put it in).
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Charlie Brej
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Charlie Brej wrote:
In the mean time I can easily make a new plugin with the background and
have the progress bar from mizmo [1], so long as that is what is wanted.
Just to keep people up to date, here are a couple screenshots of the background
in a plymouth plugin[1][2] (I picked one of the old ones for now which I
personally think looks rather nice). Hopefully tomorrow night I'll get the
progress bar going in a squerly pattern. I have made the frames of each segment
progressing[3], now just the case of stringing several of them together and
ripple their actions.
Banners and splashes
