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Old 02-06-2009, 02:00 PM
brian hurren
 
Default Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 35, Issue 7

can we have the Greek columns under a starry sky, linking ancient Greece with their knowledge of astronomy and also 2009 international year of astronomy.

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Today's Topics:

1. Fedora 11 & The Antikythera Mechanism (Olga Segou)
2. Re: Fedora 11 & The Antikythera Mechanism (Frank Murphy)
3. Re: Fedora 11 & The Antikythera Mechanism (Nicu Buculei)
4. Fedora Bangladesh Logo (Ashiqur Rahman Angel)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:24:16 +0200
From: Olga Segou <osegou@gmail.com>
Subject: Fedora 11 & The Antikythera Mechanism
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Hello from Greece!

I would like to recommend the Antikythera Mechanism as a possible theme for
artwork... What is so great about the Antikythera Mechanism?

* It fits within nautical and greek themes (as it is a navigation device
built in Greece)
* It is the first mechanical computer, a device ahead of its time


Find out more, here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism


a small quote from wikipedia:

"

The *Antikythera mechanism* (IPA:
[ˌæntɪkɪˈθɪərə]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA>,
an-ti-ki-*theer*-uh), is an ancient mechanical
calculator<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calculator>(also described as
the first known
mechanical
computer
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_computer>[1]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism#cite_note-0>
[2]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism#cite_note-Washington_Post-1>)
designed to calculate astronomical
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomy>positions. It was discovered
in the Antikythera
wreck <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_wreck> off the
Greek<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greece>island of
Antikythera <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera>, between
Kythera<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kythera>and
Crete <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crete>, in 1901. Subsequent
investigation, particularly in 2006, dated it to about 150–100 BC; and
hypothesised that it was on board a ship that sank en route from the Greek
island of Rhodes <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodes> to Rome.
Technological
artifacts of similar complexity did not reappear until a
thousand years
later.[3]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism#cite_note-2>

Jacques-Yves Cousteau
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques-Yves_Cousteau>visited the wreck
for the last time in 1978,
[4] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism#cite_note-3> but
found no more remains of the Antikythera Mechanism. Professor Michael
Edmunds of Cardiff University who led the study of the mechanism said:
"This
device is just extraordinary, the only thing of its kind. The design is
beautiful, the astronomy is exactly right. The way the mechanics are
designed just makes your jaw drop. Whoever has done this has done it
extremely carefully." He added: "...in terms of historic and scarcity
value,
I have to regard this mechanism as being more valuable than the
Mona
Lisa<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_Lisa>
."[5]
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism#cite_note-4>[6]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism#cite_note-Guardian-5>

The device is displayed in the Bronze Collection of the National
Archaeological Museum of
Athens<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Archaeological_Museum_of_Athens>,
accompanied by a reconstruction made and offered to the museum by Derek de
Solla Price <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_J._de_Solla_Price>. Other
reconstructions are on display at the American Computer
Museum<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Computer_Museum>in
Bozeman,
Montana <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bozeman,_Montana> and the
Children's
Museum of
Manhattan<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Museum_of_Manhattan>in
New York.
"

Best regards,
Olga
Segou.
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:34:25 +0000
From: Frank Murphy <frankly3d@fedoraproject.org>
Subject: Re: Fedora 11 & The Antikythera Mechanism
To: Fedora Art List <fedora-art-list@redhat.com>
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Olga Segou wrote:
> Hello from Greece!
>
> I would like to recommend the Antikythera Mechanism as a possible theme
> for artwork... What is so great about the Antikythera Mechanism?
>
> * It fits within nautical and greek themes (as it is a navigation device
> built in Greece)
> * It is the first mechanical computer, a device ahead of its
time
>

The problem I see here is, without the explanation
most users will just see a geometrical shape and go, huh!
As there will be no text on the graphics.

Whereas the columns can be recognised as classical.

Frank



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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:50:46 +0200
From: Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro>
Subject: Re: Fedora 11 & The Antikythera Mechanism
To: Fedora Art List <fedora-art-list@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <498BF9E6.7020408@nicubunu.ro>
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Frank Murphy wrote:
> Olga Segou wrote:
>> I would like to recommend the Antikythera Mechanism as a possible
theme
>> for artwork... What is so great about the Antikythera Mechanism?
>>
>> * It fits within nautical and greek themes (as it is a navigation
device
>>
built in Greece)
>> * It is the first mechanical computer, a device ahead of its time
>
> The problem I see here is, without the explanation
> most users will just see a geometrical shape and go, huh!
> As there will be no text on the graphics.

Methinks that people seeing the Antikythera Mechanism would go like "so
they got back to the steampunk theme they scrapped for F10?"

> Whereas the columns can be recognised as classical.

I think so, the columns are easier to recognize.

--
nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/
photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/
my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/



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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:13:16 +0600
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Subject: Fedora Bangladesh Logo
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