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Old 10-06-2008, 01:46 AM
Jarod Wen
 
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Hi all,
I have just finished my first attempt: two candidates for the live cd, one for the install dvd.*
The style of the design follows the previous version used in Fedora 9. Most of the sources used in these design are from the source of Solar theme of Fedora 10. Since I am a newbie in design using Gimp and Inkscape, there are lots of learner's attempts... Please don't hesitate to give me any suggestions to improve the source files.
You can find them from the link:
http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html
Sorry for using my own website since I am not*familiar*with the process on how to upload these files onto our wiki. And of course, I think they are still drafts. I need your advice to improve them.*
Thanks!
On Sep 30, 2008, at 9:43 PM, fedora-art-list-request@redhat.com wrote:On Sep 30, 2008, at 4:04 PM,*fedora-art-list-request@redhat.com*wrote:

Cool. We have a standard design we use for the disc so all that is
needed is the sleeve design. We need one for live media and one for *
DVD.


Sure. It is very useful that I have got the source files of ones for *
F9. It really a good starting point for me to do some work based on *
them.
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Old 10-06-2008, 02:00 AM
Ian Weller
 
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On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 09:46:09PM -0400, Jarod Wen wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have just finished my first attempt: two candidates for the live cd,
> one for the install dvd.
>
> The style of the design follows the previous version used in Fedora 9.
> Most of the sources used in these design are from the source of Solar
> theme of Fedora 10. Since I am a newbie in design using Gimp and
> Inkscape, there are lots of learner's attempts... Please don't hesitate
> to give me any suggestions to improve the source files.
>
> You can find them from the link:
>
> http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html
>
> Sorry for using my own website since I am not familiar with the process
> on how to upload these files onto our wiki. And of course, I think they
> are still drafts. I need your advice to improve them.
>
If you've signed the CLA and are in one other group on FAS, you can use
your fedorapeople.org space. See
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/fedorapeople.org
for more information.

To upload files using the wiki, use the "Upload file" link in the
toolbox in the sidebar. You have to be logged in to do this.

Otherwise, back to the art... very nice! For the CD cases it seems like
the "sun" isn't the same as the DVD case or the rest of the artwork...
could you check that?

I personally prefer the top one as opposed to the middle one for the CD
case.

You might want to use the MgOpen Modata font, as that's the font that
Fedora uses for pretty much everything in their designs. You can get it
installed by running
yum install mgopen-fonts

Thanks for including sources, too! Hope this all helps.

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Old 10-06-2008, 06:03 AM
Rahul Sundaram
 
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Jarod Wen wrote:

Hi all,

I have just finished my first attempt: two candidates for the live cd,
one for the install dvd.

The style of the design follows the previous version used in Fedora 9.
Most of the sources used in these design are from the source of Solar
theme of Fedora 10. Since I am a newbie in design using Gimp and
Inkscape, there are lots of learner's attempts... Please don't hesitate
to give me any suggestions to improve the source files.


You can find them from the link:

http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html


IIRC, the number of different colors shoots up the printing cost of the
material drastically. Shades of the same color is ok. You might want to
keep that in mind.


Rahul

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Old 10-06-2008, 07:30 AM
Nicu Buculei
 
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Rahul Sundaram wrote:


IIRC, the number of different colors shoots up the printing cost of the
material drastically. Shades of the same color is ok. You might want to
keep that in mind.


That is a real concern when printing on the real CD on large scale, but
for inkjet sleeve printing (do yourself at home) it is not a problem.


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Old 10-06-2008, 07:33 AM
Nicu Buculei
 
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Ian Weller wrote:


You might want to use the MgOpen Modata font, as that's the font that
Fedora uses for pretty much everything in their designs. You can get it
installed by running
yum install mgopen-fonts


Yeah, MgOpen Modata for the release number (10), disk title (x86 LiveCD)
and for the url (fp.o). But the copyright text *may* be better (has to
be tested) to stay with a plain font (Liberation, DejaVu) for readability.


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Old 10-06-2008, 07:52 AM
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
 
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On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 21:00 -0500, Ian Weller wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 09:46:09PM -0400, Jarod Wen wrote:
> > http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html
>
> Otherwise, back to the art... very nice! For the CD cases it seems like
> the "sun" isn't the same as the DVD case or the rest of the artwork...
> could you check that?

It's the same base XCF, but some of the layers have been hidden,
removing some of the surface turbulence and most of the foreground
flares. If we're going with the top image though, I'd like to see those
layers restored.

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Old 10-06-2008, 12:00 PM
"Paul W. Frields"
 
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On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 09:46:09PM -0400, Jarod Wen wrote:
> http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html

Other people are better suited to critique and adjust the design,
fonts, and so forth. Some things we should also do with the jackets:

* For Live CD, include a small bit of information about how to use the
media: "This disc contains a complete bootable Fedora environment.
To use it, make sure your computer supports booting from its CD or
DVD drive. Then insert the disc, turn the computer's power on, and
follow the prompts. If you enjoy this Fedora environment, you can
copy it to your computer using the desktop 'Install to Hard Disk'
icon. For further assistance, visit help.fedoraproject.org."

* Make sure that the printing of the design is going to be a
reasonable cost for the Ambassadors bulk-ordering the discs. If
there are any sort of color restrictions, we should get those
figured out up-front. I believe the NA Ambassadors were working
with Karlie Robinson on duplication. I'm not sure whether they are
getting sleeves made by the same vendor.


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Old 10-06-2008, 01:57 PM
Jarod Wen
 
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On Oct 6, 2008, at 6:40 AM, fedora-art-list-request@redhat.com wrote:On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 21:00 -0500, Ian Weller wrote:
On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 09:46:09PM -0400, Jarod Wen wrote:
http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html

Otherwise, back to the art... very nice! For the CD cases it seems like
the "sun" isn't the same as the DVD case or the rest of the artwork...
could you check that?

It's the same base XCF, but some of the layers have been hidden,
removing some of the surface turbulence and most of the foreground
flares. If we're going with the top image though, I'd like to see those
layers restored.
It is really the problem for me to merge the same planet from DVD to CD, since I didn't find a better way to copy several layers together to another Gimp file(I am a newbie there...), so finally I made a png for the planet image and combine it into the CD files. I am sure that the*conversion*from layers to png has eaten something... Anyone gives me some ideas on that?
Ian Weller wrote:

You might want to use the MgOpen Modata font, as that's the font that
Fedora uses for pretty much everything in their designs. You can get it
installed by running
*yum install mgopen-fonts

Yeah, MgOpen Modata for the release number (10), disk title (x86 LiveCD)*
and for the url (fp.o). But the copyright text *may* be better (has to*
be tested) to stay with a plain font (Liberation, DejaVu) for readability.
In fact I used the MgOpen Moderna, since when I tried to use MgOpen Modata, I found that the effects on my works showed a little difference from the ones in the sleeves of Fedora 9, where MgOpen Modata was used. I think I can changed it soon.

Rahul Sundaram wrote:

IIRC, the number of different colors shoots up the printing cost of the*
material drastically. Shades of the same color is ok. You might want to*
keep that in mind.

That is a real concern when printing on the real CD on large scale, but*
for inkjet sleeve printing (do yourself at home) it is not a problem.
Ye guys, you are right. I didn't consider this problem. I will try to decrease the number of colors.*
Thanks for all of your comments!
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Old 10-06-2008, 02:14 PM
 
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Hi Jarod!

> On Oct 6, 2008, at 6:40 AM, fedora-art-list-request@redhat.com wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 21:00 -0500, Ian Weller wrote:
>>> On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 09:46:09PM -0400, Jarod Wen wrote:
>>>> http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html
>>>
>>> Otherwise, back to the art... very nice! For the CD cases it seems
>>> like
>>> the "sun" isn't the same as the DVD case or the rest of the
>>> artwork...
>>> could you check that?
>>
>> It's the same base XCF, but some of the layers have been hidden,
>> removing some of the surface turbulence and most of the foreground
>> flares. If we're going with the top image though, I'd like to see
>> those
>> layers restored.

> It is really the problem for me to merge the same planet from DVD to
> CD, since I didn't find a better way to copy several layers together
> to another Gimp file(I am a newbie there...), so finally I made a png
> for the planet image and combine it into the CD files. I am sure that
> the conversion from layers to png has eaten something... Anyone gives
> me some ideas on that?

>From the aurora in the image it looks like you may be using an older
version of the XCF. I would strongly recommend just using one of the png
wallpapers as the base image to use right now as you can be assured those
are okay to use.

>> Yeah, MgOpen Modata for the release number (10), disk title (x86
>> LiveCD)
>> and for the url (fp.o). But the copyright text *may* be better (has to
>> be tested) to stay with a plain font (Liberation, DejaVu) for
>> readability.
>
>
> In fact I used the MgOpen Moderna, since when I tried to use MgOpen
> Modata, I found that the effects on my works showed a little
> difference from the ones in the sleeves of Fedora 9, where MgOpen
> Modata was used. I think I can changed it soon.

It definitely doesn't look like MgOpen Modata, I'm not sure what's gone
wrong for you.

>> That is a real concern when printing on the real CD on large scale,
>> but for inkjet sleeve printing (do yourself at home) it is not a problem.
>
> Ye guys, you are right. I didn't consider this problem. I will try to
> decrease the number of colors.

Actually you don't have to worry about this for the sleeves. It is only
the disc designs themselves that are color-limited because of the screen
printing process used to print them. So the colors are fine, but I would
replace the image with one of the wallpaper pngs because it looks like
it's one of the older, uncleaned versions.

~m

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Old 10-06-2008, 03:46 PM
Jarod Wen
 
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Thanks for all of your comments!

On Oct 6, 2008, at 10:52 AM, fedora-art-list-request@redhat.com wrote:


So the colors are fine, but I would
replace the image with one of the wallpaper pngs because it looks like
it's one of the older, uncleaned versions.


I got the source from this link:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Solar

The final version should be the one of Image:
Solar_gimp_1900x1200.xcf.bz2, right? I will update my design using
this one.


I will update the fonts to be MgOpen Modata. I will try another
machine to see whether there is something wrong with my machine.


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