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Old 09-02-2008, 10:33 PM
Mike McGrath
 
Default One person - several FAS accounts? (was: bodhi abuse?)

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Josh Boyer wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 03:19:35PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
> >Hopefully someone who can write mo' betta can fix it but:
> >
> >http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem#Account_Termination
> >
> >As far as I'm concerned, that goes in to place at the end of the week if
> >no one has any problems with it. At that time the Infrastructure Team
> >will start fielding complaints and we'll start contacting people and
> >disabling accounts who are in violation.
> >
> >Questions comments? Speak up!
>
> I would phrase the last sentence as "Multiple accounts for an individual
> person needs FESCo approval."
>

ehh. There's lots of reason for people to have multiple accounts that
have nothing to do with FESCo or the operating system that the Fedora
Project produces.

> Of course, this will need to be detected and acted upon to really have any
> meaning at all. And while the policy is fine, there's really not much you
> can do about people using "anonymous" hotmail/yahoo/gmail/etc accounts.
>
> Really, this is just to keep the honest people honest.
>

Yeah we'll probably be going on a per complaint basis. Policing 12,183
accounts that are currently in fas is just not something we have the
manpower to do. We have done some proactive things (like requiring
different email addresses) but it only goes so far. Unfortunately for now
our most effective solution is to be reactive.

-Mike

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Old 09-06-2008, 12:14 PM
Michael Schwendt
 
Default One person - several FAS accounts? (was: bodhi abuse?)

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:42:36 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:

>
> On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 22:36 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
>
> > If this becomes a real problem (or if it is already) we can just
> > create a
> > policy against this sort of thing and enforce it on a per complaint
> > basis.
>
> It sounds as if it has become a real problem. Can Infrastructure put
> together a policy it can enforce? Then please let this know for a round
> of sanity checking.

I assume no one else has talked to the dcottle/auscity/acottle trio
meanwhile?

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-7560
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-7595
...

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Old 09-06-2008, 03:59 PM
Mike McGrath
 
Default One person - several FAS accounts? (was: bodhi abuse?)

On Sat, 6 Sep 2008, Michael Schwendt wrote:

> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:42:36 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
>
> >
> > On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 22:36 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
> >
> > > If this becomes a real problem (or if it is already) we can just
> > > create a
> > > policy against this sort of thing and enforce it on a per complaint
> > > basis.
> >
> > It sounds as if it has become a real problem. Can Infrastructure put
> > together a policy it can enforce? Then please let this know for a round
> > of sanity checking.
>
> I assume no one else has talked to the dcottle/auscity/acottle trio
> meanwhile?
>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-7560
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-7595
> ...
>

Not yet but the policy is in affect now. Go ahead and create a ticket so
we have an audit trail and I'll get in contact with this trio

-Mike

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Old 09-06-2008, 04:54 PM
Michael Schwendt
 
Default One person - several FAS accounts? (was: bodhi abuse?)

On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 10:59:26 -0500 (CDT), Mike McGrath wrote:

> Not yet but the policy is in affect now. Go ahead and create a ticket so
> we have an audit trail and I'll get in contact with this trio

I have no idea where to create a ticket, so I filed this:
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/815

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Old 09-07-2008, 08:18 PM
Axel Thimm
 
Default One person - several FAS accounts? (was: bodhi abuse?)

On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 02:14:43PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> I assume no one else has talked to the dcottle/auscity/acottle trio
> meanwhile?
>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-7560
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-7595

trio = "me, myself and I"?

More than abusing accounts this trio is tainting the QA policies put
in place and thus the over quality guaranty of Fedora.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:51 PM
"Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski"
 
Default One person - several FAS accounts? (was: bodhi abuse?)

On Sunday, 07 September 2008 at 22:18, Axel Thimm wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 02:14:43PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > I assume no one else has talked to the dcottle/auscity/acottle trio
> > meanwhile?
> >
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-7560
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-7595
>
> trio = "me, myself and I"?
>
> More than abusing accounts this trio is tainting the QA policies put
> in place and thus the over quality guaranty of Fedora.

And look who's among "Top Fedora testers":
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/metrics/?release=F9
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/metrics/?release=F8

Regards,
R.

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Old 09-10-2008, 08:41 AM
Michael Schwendt
 
Default One person - several FAS accounts? (was: bodhi abuse?)

On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:51:13 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:

> On Sunday, 07 September 2008 at 22:18, Axel Thimm wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 02:14:43PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > > I assume no one else has talked to the dcottle/auscity/acottle trio
> > > meanwhile?
> > >
> > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-7560
> > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-7595
> >
> > trio = "me, myself and I"?
> >
> > More than abusing accounts this trio is tainting the QA policies put
> > in place and thus the over quality guaranty of Fedora.
>
> And look who's among "Top Fedora testers":
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/metrics/?release=F9
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/metrics/?release=F8

Sure. Looking at the development in FI ticket #815 I've stirred up a
hornets' nest.

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