bug triage considered useful?

Provoking question:

Am I the only person in Fedora who considers this bug triaging (esp.
today's) to be producing more noise and spam than useful results?

Ralf


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Ralf Corsepius wrote:

Provoking question:

Am I the only person in Fedora who considers this bug triaging (esp.
today's) to be producing more noise and spam than useful results?



Most likely.

-Jeroen

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On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203@freenet.de> wrote:
> Provoking question:
>
> Am I the only person in Fedora who considers this bug triaging (esp.
> today's) to be producing more noise and spam than useful results?

So far I've found it useful. The messages I'm getting have reminded me
to re-look at a number of items I've filled to see if they are still
relevant, which I've totally forgotten about filing against now dead
Fedora releases.

-jef

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On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 05:07:52PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> Provoking question:
>
> Am I the only person in Fedora who considers this bug triaging (esp.
> today's) to be producing more noise and spam than useful results?


Having had to personally deal with tens of thousands of bugs / bug
reports / issues / resolutions in the 9+ years I've been actively
developing Linux, I'm glad for _anyone_ who steps up and tries to
actively manage this list. Issues get resolved but not closed.
Issues get reported but lack follow-up (either developer or reporter)
on occasion. Eventually these need to get pruned, like any good
garden, leaving only the actual problems which need focus. The Triage
effort is designed to do exactly this.

Does it generate some additional mail? Yes. Are they taking steps to
minimize the extra mail? Yes. But does that mail generation negate
the good they're accomplishing? IMHO, No.

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On Wed, 14 May 2008, Matt Domsch wrote:

> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 05:07:52PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > Provoking question:
> >
> > Am I the only person in Fedora who considers this bug triaging (esp.
> > today's) to be producing more noise and spam than useful results?
>
>
> Having had to personally deal with tens of thousands of bugs / bug
> reports / issues / resolutions in the 9+ years I've been actively
> developing Linux, I'm glad for _anyone_ who steps up and tries to
> actively manage this list. Issues get resolved but not closed.
> Issues get reported but lack follow-up (either developer or reporter)
> on occasion. Eventually these need to get pruned, like any good
> garden, leaving only the actual problems which need focus. The Triage
> effort is designed to do exactly this.
>
> Does it generate some additional mail? Yes. Are they taking steps to
> minimize the extra mail? Yes. But does that mail generation negate
> the good they're accomplishing? IMHO, No.
>

Agreed, its a completely thankless job and an easy target but after these
begining steps are over and the team is into a cycle I think it will do a
great deal of good.

-Mike

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On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 17:07 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> Provoking question:
>
> Am I the only person in Fedora who considers this bug triaging (esp.
> today's) to be producing more noise and spam than useful results?

You're probably not the only one, but I do find it useful. It's finding
bugs that I'm attached to that are definitely old, no longer useful, and
I'm happy to see them closed.

--
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature!
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On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath@redhat.com> wrote:
> Agreed, its a completely thankless job and an easy target but after these
> begining steps are over and the team is into a cycle I think it will do a
> great deal of good.

I'll chip in for a nice steak dinner for the triage team. I certainly
appreciate it. Triage was the first thing I failed to do well back in
the FC1/2 timeframe. I've since gone on to fail at several other
things since then, but I still remember and I salute them.

-jef"and by steak dinner... i mean one piece of beef jerky split among
the team"spaleta

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Ralf Corsepius wrote:

Provoking question:

Am I the only person in Fedora who considers this bug triaging (esp.
today's) to be producing more noise and spam than useful results?


Mails are annoying, yes. People involved are reducing that amount. It
does accomplish something very useful and someone who has tried to do
this before, I am glad there is a community doing this again.


Rahul

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