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Old 04-22-2008, 03:34 AM
seth vidal
 
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On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 22:26 -0400, Max Spevack wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
>
> > It is also used as a tie-breaker. We had a tie a few weeks ago over
> > (*holds breath*) Codeina/Codec Buddy, right there live in IRC, and
> > Paul had to make the decision. Not sure how often this happens. Was
> > his decision the will of the community just because it potentially
> > aligned with a portion of them? Jon is arguing, aiui, "No."
>
> We only had a tie because the meeting was on IRC, not all Board members
> were present, and the Board specifically wanted to make a decision AT
> THAT TIME and not put it off until the missing member was present.
>
> With 9 "voting members", there will never be a tie if everyone is there.

unless there is more than 2 options.

-sv


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Old 04-22-2008, 03:35 AM
seth vidal
 
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On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 20:29 -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
> That is something I've been thinking about recently.
>
> I think we should remove the option for an elected member of FESCo or
> the Board to 'abstain' or vote '+0' unless there is a legitimate
> conflict of interest or reason with merit such as complete unfamiliarity
> with an area. It seems to me that voting '+0' is really voting '-1'
> without conviction and that dilutes the process... something along the
> lines of 'if you chose not to decide you still have made a choice'.
>

Wow, you know it is getting serious when you break out the rush lyrics.

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Old 04-22-2008, 10:46 AM
Josh Boyer
 
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On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 20:29 -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
> Josh Boyer said the following on 04/21/2008 07:36 PM Pacific Time:
> > On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 22:26 -0400, Max Spevack wrote:
> >> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
> >>
> >>> It is also used as a tie-breaker. We had a tie a few weeks ago over
> >>> (*holds breath*) Codeina/Codec Buddy, right there live in IRC, and
> >>> Paul had to make the decision. Not sure how often this happens. Was
> >>> his decision the will of the community just because it potentially
> >>> aligned with a portion of them? Jon is arguing, aiui, "No."
> >> We only had a tie because the meeting was on IRC, not all Board members
> >> were present, and the Board specifically wanted to make a decision AT
> >> THAT TIME and not put it off until the missing member was present.
> >>
> >> With 9 "voting members", there will never be a tie if everyone is there.
> >
> > "Abstain" votes are not allowed?
> >
>
> That is something I've been thinking about recently.
>
> I think we should remove the option for an elected member of FESCo or
> the Board to 'abstain' or vote '+0' unless there is a legitimate
> conflict of interest or reason with merit such as complete unfamiliarity
> with an area. It seems to me that voting '+0' is really voting '-1'

Those would be the only two reasons I ever vote '0'. It happens more
often than you'd think.

josh

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