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Old 04-06-2008, 11:59 AM
andrew lowenthal
Default fedora.tv/plumi

Hi all,my name is Andrew Lowenthal, I work with EngageMedia and deal with the outreach for the Plumi video sharing platform among other things. Greg emailed me and suggested I join this Fedora TV thread as we'd been discussing Redhat's current use of Plumi internally for sharing videos.
For those new to Plumi it allows users to create an out-of-the-box video sharing site. It's GPL, built on Plone and*pulls together around 15/16 products and configures them to all work together for video sharing/community building, eg. video podcasting, tagging, transcoding, content licensing -*http://blog.plumi.org/features/
Now obviously I am biased but I think Plumi can work for the needs people have outlined so far, however I thought I'd address a few of the specific needs/concerns that I saw mentioned in the threat. I've also cc'd Karl Abbot who is managing the Redhat internal Plumi system, he might perhaps be able to pass on access for people to have a look around or give his own feedback on useing the system. You can also check http://demo.plumi.org or http://engagemedia.org, which probably the best example to date.
Regarding Ogg - Plumi uses an application called indytube to transcode to flash and Ogg. The problem however is that embedded ogg playback is not the best experience on any system atm imho and doesn't compete well with flash. We're _very_ keen however to see Ogg playing nicely in the browser. Late last year we, EngageMedia, released a research report into FOSS codecs usability, uptake and development. It was an attempt to create a roadmap to make Ogg a viable option for ordinary video makers.
You can find the report herehttp://tinyurl.com/yofb2g
At present we're collaborating with Micheal Dale, who is working with Metavid on mv-embed, on a proposal to Mozilla (or any other funder you might*recommend) to development a Ogg transcoder/uploader as a firefox addon to solve the problem of ordinary video makers generally having problems creating Oggs. The playback would be handled inside Plumi with mv-embed. I can send more details of this if people are interested.
Bittorrent integration is 80% done and could probably be knocked over quite quickly with bit of extra energy. Straight http downloads of all videos are also available.
Content licensing is*integrated and connects to the Creative Commons API and has FDL and other custom license options also.
Hopefully the fact that we are integrated with Plone overcomes some of the concerns about dependency (as regarding lulu falling over) but of course you have to do your own hosting, though you could also look at integrating with archive.org, something we're keen to explore. ATM we're just using a single 2GHz machine with 3GB of RAM to run engagemedia.org and also run a few other sites/mail etc. on that server.
As regards Miro, its really a front end for receiving media rather than publishing it. Plumi is made to work quite seamlessly with Miro however as the publishing side of the equation. All listings/categories etc. put out a valid rss2 vodcast feed and all members also have their own feed. Plone also makes it pretty easy to create custom feeds based on any criteria. Bittorrent links can easily be added to the feed for Miro to use as the first download option. Also FYI the Miro crew's previous publishing platform, Broadcast Machine, is now defunct.*http://www.getmiro.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=48
The Wordpress based Show-in-a-box is the only other really solid system I know of but is more aimed at the video blogging community rather than at setting up large scale community sites.http://showinabox.tv/
To see more on the where we are hoping to take the Plumi development you can see the tracker herehttp://plumi.org/report/3
Any questions let me know.Cheers.Andrew

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