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Old 03-26-2012, 02:35 AM
Rajesh Ranjan
Default Fwd: #135: Connotations Problems with Beefy Miracle

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[Fedora Board issue tracker] #135: Connotations Problems
with Beefy Miracle

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 08:30:20 -0000

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#135: Connotations Problems with Beefy Miracle
Reporter: rajesh | Owner: somebody
Type: task | Status: new
Priority: major | Milestone:
Component: Fedora | Keywords: Connotations, Fedora 17, Beefy
Project | Miracle
Blocked By: | Blocking:
Beefy Miracle is having a huge negative cultural, social, and political
connotation with respect to India and several religions of India and

Connotation is the emotional and imaginative association for a word, where
denotation is the strict dictionary meaning of a word. So when we need to
check for connotation, there is nothing to do with a meaning like robust
or muscular. During naming we need to avoid any potential unwanted
connotations of any words wholly/partly that can create problems in making
our project or product widely acceptable.

Even I can find there is one direct meaning of 'Beefy' is also there -
filled with beef: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/beefy

[http://beefymiracle.org Beefy Miracle] is the code name for fedora 17 and
the pix shown there on this promotion iste of of a food item filled with
beef. I don't feel there is any connect between the typical meaning of
'beefy' word with the image. And here in this context, it is even direct
and so it is more serious.

And please check here as well how our community understand 'beefy' word
when selecting
[http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_18 Fedora 18
Naming], mainly thier context is beef only.

Some Links that can show how it is a wrong selection with respect to
Indian larger community as well as govt of India and in particular
religions like Hindu, Boddha, Jainas, Sikhs etc.

Directive Principle of State Policy of 'The Constitution of India':
[http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_India/Part_IV#Article_48_.7BOrganisation_of_agriculture_ and_animal_husbandry.7D
Article # 48. Organisation of agriculture and animal husbandry]

"The State shall endeavour to organise agriculture and animal husbandry on
modern and scientific lines and shall, in particular, take steps for
preserving and improving the breeds, and prohibiting the slaughter, of
cows and calves and other milch and draught cattle."

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette_of_Indian_dining#Beef Etiquette of
Indian dining/Beef] :

"The cow is considered sacred by most Hindus and hence beef is considered
taboo in many Indian states, and therefore most restaurants do not serve
it. However beef is consumed by people of other religions and certain
sections of Hindus. Beef is commonly sold in restaurants in the North-
Eastern states, Goa and Kerala. Apart from this, international restaurants
(primarily located in urban areas) too serve beef dishes according to
their usual menus."

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism#Ahimsa.2C_vegetarianism_and_other_food_cu stoms
Hinduism/Ahimsa vegetarianism and other food customs]

"The cow in Hindu society is traditionally identified as a caretaker and a
maternal figure, and Hindu society honours the cow as a symbol of
unselfish giving. Cow-slaughter is legally banned in almost all states of

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_in_religion Cattle in religion]

"Cattle are considered sacred in various world religions, most notably
Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, Zoroastrianism as well as the religions of
Ancient Egypt, Ancient Greece, and Ancient Rome. In some regions,
especially India, the slaughter of cattle may be prohibited and their meat
may be taboo."

Some News:

passed.html Cow slaughter ban bill passed in Karnataka Assembly]

cow-slaughter-ban-bill_1434333 BJP dharna to demand approval for cow
slaughter ban bill]

Madhya Pradesh cow slaughter ban Act gets Presidential nod]

[http://www.indianexpress.com/oldStory/35561 Cow slaughter rumour sparks
riots in Satara]

So there is a need of proper connotation analysis before going for the any
name and so for this also. Similarly, prima facie, I feel that "Juicy
Bacon" is also loaded with very very negative connotation from Fedora 18
name selection list.

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