spins.fpo visibility (was Response to "Getting Fedora Out of the If-Then Loop")

I think this is a suitable sort term solution, as long as the website
redesign happens before F13.


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2010/2/19 Máirín Duffy <duffy@fedoraproject.org>:
> On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 14:51 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:44:25AM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>> > That being said, I along with sijis from the websites team personally
>> > invested a *ton* of time and effort into the spins.fedoraproject.org
>> > redesign to make sure our spins look just as sexy as the default
>> > install.
>>
>> And it looks fantastic: *http://spins.fedoraproject.org
>>
>> As was planned and reported here in the past several times, when the
>> whole redesign is finished all the sites will match this level of
>> awesome. *Everyone felt it was important to prioritize the spins site
>> *first*, not *last*.
>
> A point made more visible here is that we had a redesign of both get.fpo
> and www.fpo planned to happen in conjunction with the spins.fpo website
> to ensure traffic was directed towards spins.fpo.
>
> Because of time and resource constraints during the F12 cycle, the
> spins.fpo site was implemented as a bit of an 'island' so the drivers to
> the site we'd had planned (banners on the main www.fpo site and get.fpo
> page) never happened. Whoops. (I assure you this was not due to malice,
> more many rushed, late nights and a failure on my part to plan out a
> proper plan B instead of leaving those threads to spins.fpo completely
> loose.)
>
> So I would like to propose that we make some extremely short-term
> changes to get.fpo right now, as we strive towards the full get.fpo [1]
> and www.fpo [2] redesigns that will drive traffic to and integrate with
> spins.fpo in the fashion we'd originally intended:
>
> - Where it says, 'KDE fans, go here!' on the current get.fpo, we replace
> that text with: 'Go to KDE and other spins!' and it will instead link to
> spins.fpo -
> *http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora
>
> - On the buttom of the column of blue buttons on the right, we place the
> attached banner to link users over to spins.fpo
>
> Do these proposals seem a reasonable short-term solution while we wait
> on the full website revamp?
>
> ~m
>
> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Website_redesign_2009/Mockups/Get.fpo
> [2] http://mairin.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/fedora-website-design-ideas/
>
>
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+1


-AdamM from Android(CM)


On Feb 19, 2010 2:29 PM, "Máirín Duffy" <duffy@fedoraproject.org> wrote:

On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 14:51 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:


> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:44:25AM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:

> > That being said, I along with sijis from the websites team personally

> > invested a *ton* of time and effort into the spins.fedoraproject.org

> > redesign to make sure our spins look just as sexy as the default

> > install.

>

> And it looks fantastic: *http://spins.fedoraproject.org

>

> As was planned and reported here in the past several times, when the

> whole redesign is finished all the sites will match this level of

> awesome. *Everyone felt it was important to prioritize the spins site

> *first*, not *last*.



A point made more visible here is that we had a redesign of both get.fpo

and www.fpo planned to happen in conjunction with the spins.fpo website

to ensure traffic was directed towards spins.fpo.



Because of time and resource constraints during the F12 cycle, the

spins.fpo site was implemented as a bit of an 'island' so the drivers to

the site we'd had planned (banners on the main www.fpo site and get.fpo

page) never happened. Whoops. (I assure you this was not due to malice,

more many rushed, late nights and a failure on my part to plan out a

proper plan B instead of leaving those threads to spins.fpo completely

loose.)



So I would like to propose that we make some extremely short-term

changes to get.fpo right now, as we strive towards the full get.fpo [1]

and www.fpo [2] redesigns that will drive traffic to and integrate with

spins.fpo in the fashion we'd originally intended:



- Where it says, 'KDE fans, go here!' on the current get.fpo, we replace

that text with: 'Go to KDE and other spins!' and it will instead link to

spins.fpo -

*http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora



- On the buttom of the column of blue buttons on the right, we place the

attached banner to link users over to spins.fpo



Do these proposals seem a reasonable short-term solution while we wait

on the full website revamp?



~m



[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Website_redesign_2009/Mockups/Get.fpo

[2] http://mairin.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/fedora-website-design-ideas/






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I'm just saying it's ideal to not have this small of a solution for
that time. Possibly slowly increase promotion of spins past a simple
banner for as long as we need to.


Darren L. VanBuren
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On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 14:00, Paul W. Frields <stickster@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:37:23PM -0800, Darren VanBuren wrote:
>> I think this is a suitable sort term solution, as long as the website
>> redesign happens before F13.
>
> Let's be careful about laying down ultimata for a community team, our
> awesome Websites group, that has been working extremely hard to make
> this happen. *If for some reason they can't finish the next phase in
> time, would we then declare this short term solution unsuitable, or
> their work a failure? *Of course not.
>
> This is either suitable in the meantime, or it's not. *I for one feel
> it is, and I want to thank Mo and the Websites team for their
> dedication to making our vision of a more attractive site a reality,
> starting with the spins pages.
>
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That's okay Paul, I should be a bit more specific, and not use vague wording.

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On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 15:29, Paul W. Frields <stickster@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 02:03:08PM -0800, Darren VanBuren wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 14:00, Paul W. Frields <stickster@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:37:23PM -0800, Darren VanBuren wrote:
>> >> I think this is a suitable sort term solution, as long as the website
>> >> redesign happens before F13.
>> >
>> > Let's be careful about laying down ultimata for a community team, our
>> > awesome Websites group, that has been working extremely hard to make
>> > this happen. *If for some reason they can't finish the next phase in
>> > time, would we then declare this short term solution unsuitable, or
>> > their work a failure? *Of course not.
>> >
>> > This is either suitable in the meantime, or it's not. *I for one feel
>> > it is, and I want to thank Mo and the Websites team for their
>> > dedication to making our vision of a more attractive site a reality,
>> > starting with the spins pages.
>> >
>> I'm just saying it's ideal to not have this small of a solution for
>> that time. Possibly slowly increase promotion of spins past a simple
>> banner for as long as we need to.
>
> I misunderstood your use of "as long as," sorry Darren. *I agree that
> if we would *not* shut out the possibility of doing more if we can't
> get the redesign fully in place for F13.
>
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