Fedora Board December 2009 Results
Hi f-a-b subscribers, the moment you have been waiting for.
The votes have been tallied and I can now announce the 2 successful candidates for the Fedora Board. We had a total of 225 votes for this election, meaning that each candidate could obtain up to a maximum of 900 votes. The results are as follows: 1. Matt Domsch 643 2. Chris Tyler 475 *** Cut Off *** 3. Coin Walters 451 4. Steven M. Parrish 412 So please join me in congratulating Matt and Chris on their return to the Fedora Board. Please find the full GPG-signed release announcement attached. Regards, Nigel Jones Fedora Election Administrator-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Election Results for Fedora Board, Fedora 11 Release Cycle Voting Period: 05 December 2009 00:00:00 UTC to 16 December 2009 23:59:59 UTC Nominations: * Chris Tyler (ctyler) * Colin Walters (walters) * Matt Domsch (mdomsch) * Steven M. Parrish (SMParrish) Outcomes: As defined in the election text, the two (2) candidate(s) with the greatest number of votes will be elected for a full, 2 release term. Information: At close of voting there were 225 valid ballots. Using the Fedora Range Voting method, each candidate could attain a maximum of 900 votes. Results: 1. Matt Domsch 643 2. Chris Tyler 475 *** Cut Off *** 3. Coin Walters 451 4. Steven M. Parrish 412 As such, Matt Domsch and Chris Tyler are elected to the Fedora Board for a 2 release term as of January 7, 2010. Signed, Nigel Jones <nigjones@redhat.com> Elections Administrator -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAksqMUAACgkQZLzpFltXFOtRQgCgzUC6AQQ0ja L1+MLjxXNtFSEE N1UAn2N++KX90iph63RyHTqUMLiKH8tE =Hk4a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board |
Fedora Board December 2009 Results
Nigel Jones said the following on 12/17/2009 05:34 AM Pacific Time:
Hi f-a-b subscribers, the moment you have been waiting for. The votes have been tallied and I can now announce the 2 successful candidates for the Fedora Board. We had a total of 225 votes for this election, meaning that each candidate could obtain up to a maximum of 900 votes. The results are as follows: 1. Matt Domsch 643 2. Chris Tyler 475 *** Cut Off *** 3. Coin Walters 451 4. Steven M. Parrish 412 So please join me in congratulating Matt and Chris on their return to the Fedora Board. Please find the full GPG-signed release announcement attached. Regards, Nigel Jones Fedora Election Administrator Thanks Nigel. To get a true measure of the level of "voter turn out" can you also tell us the total number of people that were eligible to vote in this election? 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Fedora Board December 2009 Results
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 07:25:31AM -0800, John Poelstra wrote:
> Nigel Jones said the following on 12/17/2009 05:34 AM Pacific Time: > >Hi f-a-b subscribers, the moment you have been waiting for. > > > >The votes have been tallied and I can now announce the 2 successful > >candidates for the Fedora Board. > > > >We had a total of 225 votes for this election, meaning that each > >candidate could obtain up to a maximum of 900 votes. > > > >The results are as follows: > > > >1. Matt Domsch 643 > >2. Chris Tyler 475 > > > >*** Cut Off *** > > > >3. Coin Walters 451 > >4. Steven M. Parrish 412 > > > > > >So please join me in congratulating Matt and Chris on their return > >to the Fedora Board. > > > >Please find the full GPG-signed release announcement attached. > > > >Regards, > > > >Nigel Jones > >Fedora Election Administrator > > Thanks Nigel. > > To get a true measure of the level of "voter turn out" can you also > tell us the total number of people that were eligible to vote in > this election? Hi John, since Nigel is asleep I used fedora-python and found out the number of people in cla_done currently: 18,252 Also, here are ballot numbers for the last four Board elections: June 2008: 250 December 2008: 227 June 2009: 297 December 2009: 225 The ping-ponging of ballot numbers is interesting. The lower December numbers might lead one to conclude we need better publicity around elections in December. IIRC, Nigel has told us in the past the majority of ballots come in early, which would not support just having longer elections then. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board |
Fedora Board December 2009 Results
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:25 AM, John Poelstra <poelstra@redhat.com> wrote:
> To get a true measure of the level of "voter turn out" can you also tell us > the total number of people that were eligible to vote in this election? While this is always interesting to see I've been struggling for the past couple of years with the question of what we want to conclude from such a measure? It always seems to grate on people that far more contributors vote for the codename than vote for anything else, but should it bother us? There seem to be two main reasons people share with me about why they don't vote. One is that they are interested in contributing something in particular to the project so they do that but they aren't interested in project governance so they don't participate in that part of the project (just as they don't participate in other project areas that don't interest them). The other and by far the most common reason I've heard is that the contributor doesn't know anything about the candidates beyond perhaps name recognition and for that reason they just don't feel competent to make an intelligent vote. We have been trying things to address the second item above by adding town halls and questionnaires during the election to give contributors a chance to meet the candidates and get to know them a bit more personally. We get almost universal positive feedback from both of these initiatives, but the numbers of people who seem to be affected by them seems quite small. There has been some negative feedback about town halls from candidates who feel it is altering the nature of Fedora elections in a bad way. I don't agree with that criticism at present but I do admit to seeing it as a danger. [I will say that one election this year seemed to have some unpleasantness attached to it that I've not seen before and that I hope to not see again, to what extent the process had anything to do with that I'm not sure.] While a meritocracy and an open democratic election process don't need to be at odds, I do think some of our efforts to increase voter turn out, adding things that seem a bit like debates to the process for one example, do tilt the expectations in a way that might be at odds with a meritocracy. Having too much focus on what the voter turn out actually was is another thing that I think tilts us away from being governed by a meritocracy. So the natural evolution of the election process seems to me to result in an open election with a small number of heavily involved contributors voting (making the decisions). If we want more voter participation the best way to preserve the underlying meritocracy is to get more heavily involved contributors. That number is always going to be rather small when compared to the number of people we allow to vote. John _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board |
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On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:16:24AM -0600, inode0 wrote:
>So the natural evolution of the election process seems to me to result >in an open election with a small number of heavily involved >contributors voting (making the decisions). If we want more voter >participation the best way to preserve the underlying meritocracy is >to get more heavily involved contributors. That number is always going >to be rather small when compared to the number of people we allow to >vote. I think that's true. Some people just like statistics though :). josh _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board |
Fedora Board December 2009 Results
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 08:34:02AM -0500, Nigel Jones wrote:
> Hi f-a-b subscribers, the moment you have been waiting for. > > The votes have been tallied and I can now announce the 2 successful > candidates for the Fedora Board. > > We had a total of 225 votes for this election, meaning that each > candidate could obtain up to a maximum of 900 votes. > > The results are as follows: > > 1. Matt Domsch 643 > 2. Chris Tyler 475 > > *** Cut Off *** > > 3. Coin Walters 451 > 4. Steven M. Parrish 412 > > > So please join me in congratulating Matt and Chris on their return > to the Fedora Board. > > Please find the full GPG-signed release announcement attached. > > Regards, > > Nigel Jones > Fedora Election Administrator The following schedule will apply to the seating of the new Board: Thu Dec 17 -- Regular meeting Fri Dec 18 -- OOA this date, announce final appointment to Board Thu Dec 24 -- No meeting, holiday break Thu Dec 31 -- No meeting, holiday break Thu Jan 07 -- Handoff meeting, any non-returning Board members invited to attend as their last meeting There are a few individuals under consideration for the final appointed Board seat. This appointment is made after elections are completed to balance the Board's composition, and represent the entire Fedora community as much as possible. Although this appointment is ultimately up to the Fedora Project Leader to decide, generally the FPL discusses the appointments with others to achieve a consensus. I expect to make this final appointment within the next few days. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board |
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2009/12/18 inode0 <inode0@gmail.com>:
> areas that don't interest them). The other and by far the most common > reason I've heard is that the contributor doesn't know anything about > the candidates beyond perhaps name recognition and for that reason > they just don't feel competent to make an intelligent vote. > Me falls in this category. If I had enough time I'd have read all the questions and town hall logs. One reason is I cannot read blobs of English very fast. However email is fine, maybe I should paste those text into email and then read them? -- bbbush ^_^ _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board |
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On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster@gmail.com> wrote:
> Fri Dec 18 -- OOA this date, announce final appointment to Board > > Thu Dec 24 -- No meeting, holiday break > > Thu Dec 31 -- No meeting, holiday break > > Thu Jan 07 -- Handoff meeting, any non-returning Board members invited > * * * * * * *to attend as their last meeting > > There are a few individuals under consideration for the final > appointed Board seat. *This appointment is made after elections are > completed to balance the Board's composition, and represent the entire > Fedora community as much as possible. *Although this appointment is > ultimately up to the Fedora Project Leader to decide, generally the > FPL discusses the appointments with others to achieve a consensus. *I > expect to make this final appointment within the next few days. I still have the final Board appointment under consideration. The selection and announcement will be made after Christmas but significantly before the first meeting of the new Board on January 7. Apologies for the late notice -- this note was drafted earlier but I hadn't had a chance to send it out. Paul _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board |
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