On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 01:47:16PM -0800, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
> Unlike RHEL engineering, these ISVs do not get to pick when Fedora is
> branched for RHEL 6.
I had a short sidebar where I revealed a bit more of my thinking, and
I thought it would help if I shared it back here.
My thinking is fairly simple. FWIW, I'm still contemplating, having
come to the thread a day late; I don't have a full opinion, but was
just speaking to a partner viewpoint that matters to Fedora (v. RHEL
Six months is a proven clock to run against. However, we "always
slip a few weeks" and we also have discovered some of the reasons
why in our scheduling. I _know_ from this round of scheduling about
10 more reasons why Docs misses certain L10n deadlines, and we are
going to have those improved for F11.
It is a reasonable expectation that we can set a six month schedule
and actually keep it. I know there is no proof here, but it really
isn't viable to continue with the expectation that we always slip.
That is even more of a fallacy than making an occasional bump like
The ISVs wouldn't really care about a longer window, but they are
going to feel a shorter window. I can beat the six month drum much
better than the May Day/Halloween drum, in terms of explaining to
them why we follow that proven clock.
OK, let me see if I can distill some concrete from that:
* Our original premise is "six months is the right rhythm", then we
attached that to a fixed calendar for various conveniences. There
is more value in the original premise than in the conveniences
that followed from it. In this case, the goal is to _not_ change
what is concretely working.
* We better enable new contributors who have not already begun on
F11; that is, the people who are stuck in the here-and-now and
haven't begun to plan roadmaps and activate them in to rawhide.
Anyway, still thinking ...
In follow-up, it's clear we pick our calendar-tie for good and not
arbitrary reasons, but I maintain that it is the six-month rythym that
is primary, with "sync to upstreams and downstreams" as secondary. I
also don't see how the change in schedule this time negatively affects
the reasons we picked May/Oct. In other words, it's not like we are
going to miss the GNOME and KDE releases.
Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener
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