Interesting Idea for MinGW

All,

I came up with an interesting idea for MinGW, Could it be developed into
and application that could be installed on a U3 device? My idea would be
to have MinGW as an application on a U3 drive with a live persistent
image installed on the storage side of the device.

Information on U3:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U3

I could see this a beneficial as a user that is stuck in a Windows
environment could plug in the U3 device, execute the MinGW application
and run Fedora from the image installed on the storage side of the
device.

V/R

Scott Glaser

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On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 09:05:09AM -0400, Scott Glaser wrote:
> I came up with an interesting idea for MinGW, Could it be developed into
> and application that could be installed on a U3 device? My idea would be
> to have MinGW as an application on a U3 drive with a live persistent
> image installed on the storage side of the device.

'MinGW' (ie. gcc, the various binutils) is a Fedora native
application. It doesn't run on Windows, assuming that's what you
meant.

> I could see this a beneficial as a user that is stuck in a Windows
> environment could plug in the U3 device, execute the MinGW application
> and run Fedora from the image installed on the storage side of the
> device.

You're right though that there is a case where MinGW helps people
stuck in Windows -- I have a Windows machine here that I use to build
libvirt, which I would *dearly* love to convert to a Fedora box.
Having MinGW in Fedora provides a path for Windows developers to
switch to Fedora.

Rich.

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On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 17:34 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 09:05:09AM -0400, Scott Glaser wrote:
> > I came up with an interesting idea for MinGW, Could it be developed into
> > and application that could be installed on a U3 device? My idea would be
> > to have MinGW as an application on a U3 drive with a live persistent
> > image installed on the storage side of the device.
>
> 'MinGW' (ie. gcc, the various binutils) is a Fedora native
> application. It doesn't run on Windows, assuming that's what you
> meant.
>
> > I could see this a beneficial as a user that is stuck in a Windows
> > environment could plug in the U3 device, execute the MinGW application
> > and run Fedora from the image installed on the storage side of the
> > device.
>
> You're right though that there is a case where MinGW helps people
> stuck in Windows -- I have a Windows machine here that I use to build
> libvirt, which I would *dearly* love to convert to a Fedora box.
> Having MinGW in Fedora provides a path for Windows developers to
> switch to Fedora.

Richard,

Hopefully you're working with the rest of the cross-compiling SIG to
draft a proposal to FESCo on how to handle cross compiling in Fedora?
Jef Spaleta has some interest in this topic (as well as others, I'm
sure). Since the new FESCo meets for the first time this week, it's an
excellent chance to get them off on the right track, with a technical
proposal.

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On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 05:32:22PM +0000, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> Hopefully you're working with the rest of the cross-compiling SIG to
> draft a proposal to FESCo on how to handle cross compiling in Fedora?

Yes, that is the plan. Having said that, I've not 'made contact' yet.

> Jef Spaleta has some interest in this topic (as well as others, I'm
> sure). Since the new FESCo meets for the first time this week, it's an
> excellent chance to get them off on the right track, with a technical
> proposal.

Yes, I probably won't have time to get anything together by this week,
so hopefully the next meeting after that.

Rich.

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On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 17:34 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:


On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 09:05:09AM -0400, Scott Glaser wrote:
> I came up with an interesting idea for MinGW, Could it be developed into
> and application that could be installed on a U3 device? My idea would be
> to have MinGW as an application on a U3 drive with a live persistent
> image installed on the storage side of the device.

'MinGW' (ie. gcc, the various binutils) is a Fedora native
application. It doesn't run on Windows, assuming that's what you
meant.




Richard,



Sorry I misread what MinGW could do, I was under the impression that it was similar to the what could be done in the link below:



http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/03/26/portable-qemu-persistent-ubuntu-linux/



Portable Qemu Persistent Linux image on a U3 device, that allows users to run Fedora within windows as an application. This will allow more users to experience the joys of Fedora without having to install it on the machine or in instances where they can not install it on a machine.* With the advent of U3 devices exceeding 8gb in size it could allow for a customized version of Fedora to be installed that can be tailored to that users wants/needs.* It would have the benefit of being more useful than the live-cd/dvd as it can be updated and retains it updates/settings.



Sorry for the confusion.



V/R



Scott Glaser


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On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 05:32:22PM +0000, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> Hopefully you're working with the rest of the cross-compiling SIG to
>> draft a proposal to FESCo on how to handle cross compiling in Fedora?
>
> Yes, that is the plan. Having said that, I've not 'made contact' yet.

Okay I should have time this weekend to put a strawman proposal
together. I'm going to need input from spot to specific
implementation suggestions on the containment based on what he
described was done so he could have a space to work with perl
packaging at one point.

Mingw SIG members, FESCO, Infrastructure, Board members, and
interested community members whom still have the will to read
something I have written will want to review it. I'll hopefully post a
strawman wiki url Sunday evening/Monday morning. If I don't someone
please punch me in the head Monday.

-jef"2 hours away from an 8 hour drive in a straight line...without
crossing a stateline"spaleta

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