Fedora Board Recap 2008-JUL-08

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Meetings/2008-07-08

== Roll Call ==

Attendees: Everyone on irc.freenode.net #fedora-board-meeting

== Discussion Summary ==

* Board followup on CVS commits map and privacy considerations
** OWNER: [[User:Spot|spot]] will open ticket with Infrastructure, geo
data opt-in for FAS

* Board answers community questions on:
** Whether and how to quantify and use community work data
** The #1 supercomputer in the world runs Fedora -
http://www.top500.org/system/9485

** Spreading other big installation success stories
*** OWNER: [[User:Jspaleta|Jef]] will set up list of questions on
[[http://redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list| Marketing list]]

** Election improvements
*** Board consensus is that open nomination process is OK, provided
nominee accepts
*** OWNER: [[User:Inode0|John Rose]] will deliver a list of places where
we need to document the above

** FESCo role
** Other activities Board members are involved with

== IRC Transcript ==

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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008, John Poelstra wrote:
> * Board followup on CVS commits map and privacy considerations
> ** OWNER: [[User:Spot|spot]] will open ticket with Infrastructure, geo data
> opt-in for FAS

Do we want to include something else with this? I only ask because if in
the future we decide we want something else, it'll be another checkbox or
re-wording and asking everyone to re-check it. For example, does time
zone or locale fall in the same category as geo data?

-Mike

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On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath@redhat.com> wrote:

> Do we want to include something else with this? I only ask because if in
> the future we decide we want something else, it'll be another checkbox or
> re-wording and asking everyone to re-check it. For example, does time
> zone or locale fall in the same category as geo data?

Agreed to make it more broad than just geo-data - something like
"non-personally identifiable aggregate data" or something of the like
(I'm sure someone could come up with something much more eloquent than
that )

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On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 07:14:15AM -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
> ** The #1 supercomputer in the world runs Fedora -
> http://www.top500.org/system/9485

I think that's worth a fedora-announce posting.
--
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net

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On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath@redhat.com> wrote:
> Do we want to include something else with this? I only ask because if in
> the future we decide we want something else, it'll be another checkbox or
> re-wording and asking everyone to re-check it. For example, does time
> zone or locale fall in the same category as geo data?

Can we use a blanket opt-in checkbox so we can aggregate any and all
account information? or is there information we would never ever want
the ability to aggregate? Do we need a checkbox per field? So as we
add fields people get a new opt-in checkbox?

If I were going to do one checkbox it would read sort of like this:
I am allowing the Fedora project to publish details of my account as
part of aggregate data summaries.

So we would be able to use an accounts ip address, geo data, locale,
or even name, such as part of counting or trending statistics. For
example what if we wanted to know how many contributors had a last
names starting with M or S? By ticking this box we could include your
personal information in that aggregate count. Obviously that sort of
alphabetic breakdown would unlikely to be needed. But it serves as an
example of a way to take obviously personal identifying information
and aggregating it.

And I would need to be able to get a count of the people who did or
did not opt-in. Knowing that we have say 10% opting-in would help
qualify any aggregate numbers we got out.

-jef

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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Jeff Spaleta wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Do we want to include something else with this? I only ask because if in
> > the future we decide we want something else, it'll be another checkbox or
> > re-wording and asking everyone to re-check it. For example, does time
> > zone or locale fall in the same category as geo data?
>
> Can we use a blanket opt-in checkbox so we can aggregate any and all
> account information? or is there information we would never ever want
> the ability to aggregate? Do we need a checkbox per field? So as we
> add fields people get a new opt-in checkbox?
>

We could... but not even I would check it.

> If I were going to do one checkbox it would read sort of like this:
> I am allowing the Fedora project to publish details of my account as
> part of aggregate data summaries.
>
> So we would be able to use an accounts ip address, geo data, locale,
> or even name, such as part of counting or trending statistics. For
> example what if we wanted to know how many contributors had a last
> names starting with M or S? By ticking this box we could include your
> personal information in that aggregate count. Obviously that sort of
> alphabetic breakdown would unlikely to be needed. But it serves as an
> example of a way to take obviously personal identifying information
> and aggregating it.
>

AFAIK, we can use IP address now. Though we don't link it to a username.

-Mike

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