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Old 04-21-2010, 01:15 PM
"Tom "spot" Callaway"
 
Default RHEL 6 & EPEL

As you may have noticed, the RHEL 6 Beta released today. For more
details about RHEL 6, look here:
http://press.redhat.com/2010/04/21/red-hat-enterprise-linux-6-beta-available-today-for-public-download/

But, I'm here to let you know some of the specific changes of relevance
for EPEL.

Quite a few source rpms were added to RHEL 6 which were previously in
EPEL. Here's the list:

PACKAGE FEDORA EPEL
OpenEXR rdieter rdieter
SOAPpy xulchris xulchris
ant-contrib akurtakov orion
asciidoc chrisw chrisw
atlas deji deji
augeas lutter lutter
babel jcollie jcollie
bacula ixs ixs
bea-stax devrim devrim
brasero laxathom laxathom
bwidget wart wart
bzr toshio toshio
c-ares spot spot
cairomm rvinyard rvinyard
cas astokes astokes
chrpath athimm itamarjp
cim-schema toshio mdomsch
clucene deji deji
cmake orion orion
cppunit tuxbrewr pertusus
ctapi-common frankb frankb
ctdb sbose sbose
cvsps scop salimma
dbus-qt ausil ausil
deltarpm jdieter jdieter
dirmngr rdieter rdieter
ebtables spot spot
eclipse-cdt jjohnstn jjohnstn
eclipse-subclipse robmv robmv
enchant uwog lkundrak
environment-modules orion orion
epydoc thias thias
exiv2 rdieter rdieter
fakechroot athimm rjones
fakeroot athimm rjones
fastback gavin gavin
febootstrap rjones rjones
fftw konradm rdieter
fontforge kevin kevin
gc rdieter rdieter
git chrisw chrisw
glibmm24 denis denis
glpk konradm konradm
gnome-common kasal salimma
gpgme rdieter rdieter
graphviz jima jima
gsl varekova varekova
gsm rathann rathann
gstreamer-python laxathom laxathom
gtk+extra rrankin rrankin
gtkmm24 denis denis
help2man corsepiu maxamillion
hspell danken danken
html2ps kasal pertusus
inkscape lkundrak (orphan)
iok pnemade pnemade
ipython jbowes jbowes
irssi mmahut mmahut
iwl5150-firmware linville linville
jasper rdieter rdieter
jna walters walters
jss rcritten stahnma
khmeros-fonts mnowak mnowak
ladspa thomasvs lkundrak
libEMF rathann rathann
libatomic_ops rdieter lkundrak
libburn denis (orphan)
libcdio adrian adrian
libdvdread rathann rathann
libedit rishi rishi
libesmtp pawsa pertusus
libffi green lkundrak
libglademm24 denis denis
libguestfs rjones rjones
libical rishi robert
libid3tag tmz (orphan)
libiptcdata dcm dcm
libmcrypt spot spot
libmpcdec rdieter rdieter
libntlm turki turki
libpaper spot spot
librelp theinric lkundrak
libsamplerate lkundrak lkundrak
libsigc++20 denis denis
libsndfile ixs ixs
libssh2 cweyl djuran
libtar huzaifas huzaifas
libtopology tbreeds tbreeds
libuninameslist kevin kevin
libvisual thomasj lkundrak
libvncserver rdieter rdieter
libwpg lkundrak lkundrak
livecd-tools katzj sundaram
lua timn rmyers
lzo huzaifas huzaifas
lzop robert robert
memcached plindner plindner
mercurial nbecker ausil
mksh robert robert
mod_wsgi jbowes jbowes
mpich2 deji deji
netcf lutter lutter
numpy limb limb
ocaml gemi rjones
ocaml-calendar rjones rjones
ocaml-csv rjones rjones
ocaml-curses rjones rjones
ocaml-extlib rjones rjones
ocaml-findlib rjones rjones
ocaml-libvirt rjones rjones
ocaml-xml-light rjones rjones
opencv rakesh topdog
openwsman srini srini
perl-Algorithm-Diff steve steve
perl-AppConfig spot rmyers
perl-Authen-SASL steve steve
perl-CSS-Tiny cweyl lkundrak
perl-Cache-Memcached mfleming mfleming
perl-Class-Accessor spot spot
perl-Class-Data-Inheritable spot spot
perl-Class-Inspector corsepiu rmyers
perl-Class-Singleton steve steve
perl-Class-Trigger spot spot
perl-Clone spot spot
perl-Config-Tiny cweyl rmyers
perl-Convert-BinHex pghmcfc pghmcfc
perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-Bignum hardaker hardaker
perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-RSA hardaker hardaker
perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-Random hardaker hardaker
perl-Crypt-PasswdMD5 mmcgrath mmcgrath
perl-DBD-SQLite mmaslano spot
perl-Data-OptList cweyl rmyers
perl-DateTime steve steve
perl-DateTime-Format-Mail cweyl cweyl
perl-DateTime-Format-W3CDTF steve steve
perl-Devel-Cover spot spot
perl-Devel-Leak steve steve
perl-Devel-StackTrace corsepiu laxathom
perl-Devel-Symdump mmaslano kasal
perl-Digest-BubbleBabble pghmcfc pghmcfc
perl-Email-Date-Format spot spot
perl-Encode-Detect ralston ralston
perl-Error steve jpo
perl-File-Copy-Recursive corsepiu spot
perl-File-Find-Rule corsepiu rmyers
perl-File-HomeDir spot rmyers
perl-File-Remove corsepiu rmyers
perl-File-Slurp corsepiu lkundrak
perl-File-Which spot spot
perl-Font-AFM corsepiu rmyers
perl-Frontier-RPC mmaslano stahnma
perl-GD spot spot
perl-GDGraph spot spot
perl-GDGraph3d spot rmyers
perl-GDTextUtil spot spot
perl-GSSAPI steve steve
perl-HTML-Format corsepiu rmyers
perl-HTML-Tree spot spot
perl-Hook-LexWrap spot rmyers
perl-IO-stringy pghmcfc pghmcfc
perl-Image-Base spot rmyers
perl-Image-Info spot rmyers
perl-Image-Size spot rmyers
perl-Image-Xbm spot rmyers
perl-Image-Xpm spot rmyers
perl-JSON cweyl jstanley
perl-List-MoreUtils cweyl rmyers
perl-Locale-Maketext-Gettext rlandmann rlandmann
perl-MIME-Lite mmcgrath mmcgrath
perl-MIME-Types spot spot
perl-MIME-tools pghmcfc pghmcfc
perl-Mail-DKIM kylev kylev
perl-MailTools pghmcfc pghmcfc
perl-Module-Find cweyl mdbooth
perl-Module-Info steve steve
perl-Module-Install steve spot
perl-Module-ScanDeps steve steve
perl-Net-Jabber cweyl xavierb
perl-Net-LibIDN robert robert
perl-Net-XMPP cweyl xavierb
perl-NetAddr-IP ixs ixs
perl-Number-Compare corsepiu rmyers
perl-PAR-Dist steve steve
perl-PPI spot rmyers
perl-PPI-HTML spot spot
perl-Package-Generator cweyl rmyers
perl-Params-Util corsepiu rmyers
perl-Params-Validate corsepiu rmyers
perl-Parse-Yapp mmaslano pertusus
perl-Perlilog chitlesh chitlesh
perl-Pod-Coverage mmaslano spot
perl-Pod-POM spot spot
perl-Readonly cweyl cweyl
perl-Readonly-XS cweyl cweyl
perl-SNMP_Session spot spot
perl-SOAP-Lite mmcgrath mmcgrath
perl-Spiffy steve steve
perl-Sub-Exporter cweyl rmyers
perl-Sub-Install cweyl cweyl
perl-Sub-Uplevel steve spot
perl-Taint-Runtime spot spot
perl-Task-Weaken sxw sxw
perl-TeX-Hyphen steve rmyers
perl-Template-Toolkit spot spot
perl-TermReadKey kasal kasal
perl-Test-Base steve steve
perl-Test-ClassAPI corsepiu rmyers
perl-Test-Deep steve steve
perl-Test-Differences spot rmyers
perl-Test-Exception steve spot
perl-Test-Manifest spot rmyers
perl-Test-MockObject spot lkundrak
perl-Test-NoWarnings steve steve
perl-Test-Object spot rmyers
perl-Test-Output steve steve
perl-Test-Pod mmaslano spot
perl-Test-Pod-Coverage mmaslano spot
perl-Test-Prereq steve steve
perl-Test-SubCalls spot rmyers
perl-Test-Taint corsepiu rmyers
perl-Test-Tester steve steve
perl-Test-Warn spot spot
perl-Text-Autoformat steve steve
perl-Text-Diff steve steve
perl-Text-Glob corsepiu rmyers
perl-Text-Iconv ixs ixs
perl-Text-Reform steve steve
perl-Text-Unidecode mmaslano pertusus
perl-Tie-IxHash spot spot
perl-Time-modules kaboom xavierb
perl-Tree-DAG_Node spot spot
perl-UNIVERSAL-can spot spot
perl-UNIVERSAL-isa spot spot
perl-Unicode-Map8 eseyman pghmcfc
perl-Unicode-String eseyman pghmcfc
perl-XML-DOM orion orion
perl-XML-DOM-XPath alexlan mdbooth
perl-XML-Filter-BufferText ixs ixs
perl-XML-RSS spot spot
perl-XML-RegExp orion orion
perl-XML-SAX-Writer ixs ixs
perl-XML-Stream cweyl xavierb
perl-XML-TreeBuilder jfearn jfearn
perl-XML-Writer alexlan xavierb
perl-XML-XPath mmaslano kasal
perl-XML-XPathEngine alexlan mdbooth
perl-YAML steve steve
perl-YAML-Syck steve steve
perl-YAML-Tiny steve steve
perl-libintl thias thias
perl-prefork corsepiu iburrell
perltidy scop laxathom
php-pecl-apc remi timj
php-pecl-memcache remi remi
plotutils kasal kasal
pptp pghmcfc pghmcfc
pstoedit jpopelka (orphan)
publican jfearn jfearn
pulseaudio lennart lkundrak
pychart spot spot
pygpgme toshio toshio
python-Coherence thias thias
python-beaker kylev kylev
python-bugzilla wwoods wwoods
python-cheetah mikeb mikeb
python-configobj lmacken lmacken
python-coverage spot spot
python-crypto pghmcfc pghmcfc
python-dateutil jspaleta mnowak
python-decorator toshio toshio
python-decoratortools lmacken lmacken
python-dmidecode dsommers dsommers
python-docutils toshio toshio
python-dtopt ricky ricky
python-elixir jbowes jbowes
python-formencode lmacken lmacken
python-fpconst xulchris xulchris
python-genshi jcollie jcollie
python-jinja2 thm lmacken
python-kid till till
python-krbV mikeb mikeb
python-louie thias thias
python-lxml jcollie jcollie
python-mako kylev lmacken
python-markdown thm thm
python-matplotlib jspaleta jspaleta
python-memcached jafo jafo
python-myghty lmacken lmacken
python-nose lmacken lmacken
python-nss jdennis jkeating
python-paramiko jcollie limb
python-paste lmacken lmacken
python-paste-deploy lmacken lmacken
python-paste-script lmacken lmacken
python-paver toshio toshio
python-peak-rules lmacken lmacken
python-peak-util-addons lmacken lmacken
python-peak-util-assembler lmacken lmacken
python-peak-util-extremes lmacken lmacken
python-peak-util-symbols lmacken lmacken
python-prioritized-methods lmacken lmacken
python-psycopg2 devrim devrim
python-pycurl jcollie jcollie
python-pygments smilner smilner
python-repoze-what-plugins-sql lmacken lmacken
python-repoze-what-pylons spot spot
python-repoze-what-quickstart spot spot
python-repoze-who lmacken lmacken
python-repoze-who-plugins-sa lmacken lmacken
python-repoze-who-testutil spot spot
python-simplejson lmacken lmacken
python-sphinx salimma salimma
python-sprox lmacken lmacken
python-sqlalchemy toshio toshio
python-tempita ricky ricky
python-tgext-admin lmacken lmacken
python-tgext-crud lmacken lmacken
python-toscawidgets toshio toshio
python-transaction lmacken lmacken
python-turbocheetah lmacken lmacken
python-turbojson lmacken lmacken
python-turbokid lmacken lmacken
python-tw-forms toshio toshio
python-tw-jquery lmacken lmacken
python-twisted-core thomasvs lkundrak
python-twisted-names thomasvs lkundrak
python-twisted-web thomasvs lkundrak
python-twisted-words thomasvs thomasvs
python-webflash lmacken lmacken
python-webob ricky ricky
python-wsgiproxy ricky lmacken
python-zope-filesystem konradm lmacken
python-zope-interface fschwarz fschwarz
pytz jspaleta (orphan)
pyxdg spot spot
qwt frankb frankb
raptor green green
recode zkota sheltren
report gavin gavin
rfkill linville linville
rhino langel lkundrak
rpmdevtools scop scop
rpmlint scop wolfy
rrdtool kaboom kaboom
rubygem-actionmailer lutter stahnma
rubygem-actionpack lutter stahnma
rubygem-activerecord lutter stahnma
rubygem-activeresource lutter stahnma
rubygem-activesupport lutter stahnma
rubygem-rack kanarip kanarip
rubygem-rails lutter stahnma
rubygem-rake kanarip kanarip
rubygem-sqlite3-ruby kanarip kanarip
rubygems kanarip kanarip
sblim-cim-client vcrhonek vcrhonek
sblim-indication_helper praveenp praveenp
sblim-sfcb srini srini
sblim-sfcc srini srini
scrub spot spot
sdparm terjeros sharkcz
seekwatcher sandeen sandeen
smp_utils sharkcz sharkcz
svnkit robmv robmv
t1lib jamatos jamatos
taglib mschwendt abompard
tetex-tex4ht mef pertusus
tidy rdieter rdieter
tokyocabinet deji deji
unicap robert robert
ustr james james
uuid steve steve
virt-top rjones rjones
wavpack peter peter
wsmancli srini srini
wxGTK sharkcz sharkcz
xdg-utils rdieter rdieter
xerces-c jonathanrobie jonathanrobie
xmltoman lkundrak lkundrak
xorg-x11-drv-openchrome xavierb xavierb
xqilla jonathanrobie jonathanrobie
xsettings-kde rdieter rdieter
xz jnovy toshio

In addition, there are some packages which were present in RHEL 5, but
are absent in RHEL 6. Most of these packages are accounted for because
of the dropping of gtk+ support, updating of configuration tools,
standardization on hunspell, move from scim to ibus, or the move to
KDE4. Some are just obsolete, and others were removed for space
concerns. Some of them might be interesting for EPEL:

PyQt (PyQt4 is in RHEL 6)
adjtimex
agg
alchemist
am-utils
amanda
aspell-af
aspell-bg
aspell-br
aspell-ca
aspell-cs
aspell-cy
aspell-da
aspell-de
aspell-el
aspell-en
aspell-es
aspell-fo
aspell-fr
aspell-ga
aspell-gd
aspell-gl
aspell-hr
aspell-id
aspell-is
aspell-it
aspell-nl
aspell-no
aspell-pl
aspell-pt
aspell-ru
aspell-sl
aspell-sr
aspell-sv
automake17
beecrypt
bitstream-vera-fonts
bluez-hcidump
bogl
bootparamd
cadaver
cairo-java
convmv
cyrus-imapd
dasher
desktop-backgrounds
distcache
emacspeak
epic
eruby
etherboot
exim
exim-doc
fbset
fonts-ISO8859-2 (in xorg-x11-fonts-misc now)
fonts-KOI8-R (in xorg-x11-fonts-misc now)
fribidi
gdk-pixbuf
gftp
glade2
glib
glib-java
gnome-mime-data
gnome-netstatus
gnome-nettool
gphoto2
gtk+
hfsutils
icon-slicer
ifd-egate
inn
ipsec-tools
ipv6calc
irda-utils
jakarta-commons-fileupload
jakarta-commons-launcher
jakarta-commons-modeler
jakarta-commons-validator
joe
joystick
jpilot
kcc
kdbg
kdeaddons
kdevelop
kdewebdev
kdnssd-avahi
kudzu
libFS
libbtctl
libgconf-java
libglade-java
libgnome-java
libgssapi
libgtk-java
libibcommon
libsilc
libvte-java
lv
man-pages-de
mikmod
mod_python
nedit
nss_ldap
pam_ccreds
pam_smb
privoxy
procinfo
psgml
pvm
python-numeric
rarpd
rdist
scim
scim-anthy
scim-bridge
scim-chewing
scim-hangul
scim-m17n
scim-pinyin
scim-tables
scribus
slrn
specspo
splint
squirrelmail
stardict
statserial
struts
switchdesk
sysklogd
system-config-bind
system-config-boot
system-config-display
system-config-httpd
system-config-netboot
system-config-nfs
system-config-rootpassword
system-config-samba
system-switch-mail
tomcat5 (tomcat6 is in RHEL 6)
unifdef
uucp
xcdroast
xen
xmlrpc
xmlsec1
xorg-x11-drv-s3 (now named xorg-x11-drv-s3virge)
xorg-x11-resutils
xorg-x11-xfs
xorg-x11-xfwp
xorg-x11-xsm
xsri
yum-updatesd
zisofs-tools

Hope that is helpful,

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Old 04-21-2010, 02:08 PM
Felix Schwarz
 
Default RHEL 6 & EPEL

Am 21.04.2010 15:15, schrieb Tom "spot" Callaway:

In addition, there are some packages which were present in RHEL 5, but
are absent in RHEL 6.

(...)

exim
exim-doc


yikes - that's a bummer...
How do you get a package like that into EPEL?
New review request?

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Old 04-21-2010, 02:18 PM
Mark Chappell
 
Default RHEL 6 & EPEL

Felix Schwarz wrote:
> Am 21.04.2010 15:15, schrieb Tom "spot" Callaway:
>> In addition, there are some packages which were present in RHEL 5, but
>> are absent in RHEL 6.
> (...)
>> exim
>> exim-doc
>
> yikes - that's a bummer...

At least it wasn't just me.

> How do you get a package like that into EPEL?
> New review request?

It's in Fedora so in the first instance contacting the Fedora
Maintainers and getting an EL-6 branch...


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Old 04-21-2010, 02:18 PM
Ray Van Dolson
 
Default RHEL 6 & EPEL

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 04:08:05PM +0200, Felix Schwarz wrote:
> Am 21.04.2010 15:15, schrieb Tom "spot" Callaway:
> >In addition, there are some packages which were present in RHEL 5, but
> >are absent in RHEL 6.
> (...)
> >exim
> >exim-doc
>
> yikes - that's a bummer...
> How do you get a package like that into EPEL?
> New review request?
>
> fs

Yup! And probably wouldn't be _too_ difficult. I imagine you could
just take the F13 (or whatever EL6 is based off of) SRPMS and rebuild
'em.

Ray

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Old 04-21-2010, 03:04 PM
"Kirby Zhou"
 
Default RHEL 6 & EPEL

RHEL6 cotains gcc-4.4. what a bad news to me.
We need gcc-4.5 for lambda.


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Am 21.04.2010 15:15, schrieb Tom "spot" Callaway:
> In addition, there are some packages which were present in RHEL 5, but
> are absent in RHEL 6.
(...)
> exim
> exim-doc

yikes - that's a bummer...
How do you get a package like that into EPEL?
New review request?

fs

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Old 04-21-2010, 03:12 PM
Jon Stanley
 
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Considering that gcc 4.5 was released a few days ago, not surprising. * I'll take cadaver from rhel5 if he Fedora owner isn't interested, I use it a lot in rhel.*


On Apr 21, 2010 11:05 AM, "Kirby Zhou" <kirbyzhou@sohu-rd.com> wrote:

RHEL6 cotains gcc-4.4. what a bad news to me.

We need gcc-4.5 for lambda.




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Old 04-21-2010, 03:14 PM
Trevor Hemsley
 
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How sure are you that the packages that you list have really been
removed from RHEL6? The two that I am most concerned about are exim and
cyrus-imapd which constitute my entire email system! Neither of these
are listed in the RHEL6 release notes in the Discontinued Packages
section and nor are they in the Deprecated packages section.



And nss_ldap looks like another strange one to remove.



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In addition, there are some packages which were present in RHEL 5, but
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Old 04-21-2010, 03:32 PM
Mark Chappell
 
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Trevor Hemsley wrote:

> And nss_ldap looks like another strange one to remove.

Makes more sense once you see the stuff about it's replacement.

http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6-Beta/html/Beta_Release_Notes/security.html#id727409

And note: nss_pam_ldapd, pam_ldap (replace it)


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Old 04-21-2010, 03:38 PM
Chris Adams
 
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Once upon a time, Trevor Hemsley <trevor.hemsley@codefarm.com> said:
> And nss_ldap looks like another strange one to remove.

Well, at least there is a replacement.

I'm more interested in the deprecated drivers, including aacraid,
aic7xxx, and sym53c8xx. I have fairly new servers that use some of
these (and AFAIK servers using these SCSI chips are still being sold).
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Old 04-21-2010, 03:39 PM
Steve Traylen
 
Default RHEL 6 & EPEL

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Trevor Hemsley <trevor.hemsley@codefarm.com> wrote:








How sure are you that the packages that you list have really been
removed from RHEL6? The two that I am most concerned about are exim and
cyrus-imapd which constitute my entire email system! Neither of these
are listed in the RHEL6 release notes in the Discontinued Packages
section and nor are they in the Deprecated packages section.



The above list is a bit different (longer) than

http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6-Beta/html/Beta_Release_Notes/apcs04.html



or is that a different definition of discontinued.

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And nss_ldap looks like another strange one to remove.



On 21/04/2010 14:15, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:

In addition, there are some packages which were present in RHEL 5, but
are absent in RHEL 6



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