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Old 02-05-2008, 12:00 AM
"Barb Tabor"
 
Default Edubuntu and Renaissance Place

I am thinking of setting up a lab of thin
clients using Edubuntu at one of our elementary schools.
The*teachers are very into AR (Accelerated
Reader), STAR Reading and Math.
We are thinking of going to Renaissance Place
with Enterprise.
Has anyone used Ren. Place with
Edubuntu?
Any suggestions/recommendations would be
appreciated.
Thanks.
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Old 02-05-2008, 02:29 PM
Gavin McCullagh
 
Default Edubuntu and Renaissance Place

Hi,

On Mon, 04 Feb 2008, Barb Tabor wrote:

> I am thinking of setting up a lab of thin clients using Edubuntu at one of our elementary schools.
> The teachers are very into AR (Accelerated Reader), STAR Reading and Math.
> We are thinking of going to Renaissance Place with Enterprise.
> Has anyone used Ren. Place with Edubuntu?
> Any suggestions/recommendations would be appreciated.

I've never used it, but the Accelerated Reader system requirements say your
server must be Windows with SQL server, etc. The desktop machine
requirements sau Windows or Mac with Adobe Acrobat Reader and IE or
Firefox.

http://www.renlearn.com/ar/requirements.aspx

Given that Edubuntu has firefox and you can install adobe acrobat reader
from the "multiverse" repository, it's plausible that this would work but
to be honest, there's no guarantee. If you can find someone technical in
there they might give you a straight answer, but anyone in marketing will
just likely say "no". After that you may just have to try it and see.

This statement makes me a little bit nervous:

"If the proxy requires users to authenticate to access sites outside of the
local network, Fluent Reader Student will be unable to connect to the
server since applications that use the Microsoft .NET Framework run in the
security context of a local user account."

as it does make it sound like there is some windows specific .NET
application. I don't know much about Mono (the .Net framework on linux) so
am not sure if it'd be any help.

Gavin


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Old 02-05-2008, 02:38 PM
 
Default Edubuntu and Renaissance Place

I believe there is a windows and mac browser plugin to facilitate printing within the application, though printing can be done from a pdf viewer.

We've just ordered this as a replacement for the reading application that was windows and mac only.

I'll update this and the k12 list with my findings as soon as it comes in and is installed.


Luis

---- Gavin McCullagh <gmccullagh@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008, Barb Tabor wrote:
>
> > I am thinking of setting up a lab of thin clients using Edubuntu at one of our elementary schools.
> > The teachers are very into AR (Accelerated Reader), STAR Reading and Math.
> > We are thinking of going to Renaissance Place with Enterprise.
> > Has anyone used Ren. Place with Edubuntu?
> > Any suggestions/recommendations would be appreciated.
>
> I've never used it, but the Accelerated Reader system requirements say your
> server must be Windows with SQL server, etc. The desktop machine
> requirements sau Windows or Mac with Adobe Acrobat Reader and IE or
> Firefox.
>
> http://www.renlearn.com/ar/requirements.aspx
>
> Given that Edubuntu has firefox and you can install adobe acrobat reader
> from the "multiverse" repository, it's plausible that this would work but
> to be honest, there's no guarantee. If you can find someone technical in
> there they might give you a straight answer, but anyone in marketing will
> just likely say "no". After that you may just have to try it and see.
>
> This statement makes me a little bit nervous:
>
> "If the proxy requires users to authenticate to access sites outside of the
> local network, Fluent Reader Student will be unable to connect to the
> server since applications that use the Microsoft .NET Framework run in the
> security context of a local user account."
>
> as it does make it sound like there is some windows specific .NET
> application. I don't know much about Mono (the .Net framework on linux) so
> am not sure if it'd be any help.
>
> Gavin
>
>
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Old 02-05-2008, 02:59 PM
"Jim Hutchinson"
 
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On Feb 4, 2008 6:00 PM, Barb Tabor <btabor@btownccs.k12.in.us> wrote:
>
>
> I am thinking of setting up a lab of thin clients using Edubuntu at one of
> our elementary schools.
> The teachers are very into AR (Accelerated Reader), STAR Reading and Math.
> We are thinking of going to Renaissance Place with Enterprise.
> Has anyone used Ren. Place with Edubuntu?
> Any suggestions/recommendations would be appreciated.
> Thanks.
>

I have no idea about the tech specs, but as a teacher who used to
advocate for AR and now doesn't I think you might be able to find
better uses for your lab than running AR or anything similar. I'm not
going to use this as a forum to bash AR, but I will say that
independent research does not support their claims. Unfortunately,
once schools have bought in there is little of change (kind of like
trying to move away from windows).

I am really trying to get our teachers to use tools like Kig (I wish
this project was more active than it seems) and others to enhance math
instruction and move away from using computers for just drill and
practice or creating copy and paste presentations. Sorry, starting on
one of my rants.

Anyway, good luck.
Jim
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:49 PM
 
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Don't hesitate to bash it. This and the k12 list are the best place to discuss educational software, IMHO.

The only thing renlearn has of value is their data on the tests. Why they would choose to build their software on a windows platform is beyond me.
It would make much more sense to use mysql or postgresql on top of apache and or tomcat and support multiple platforms. Keep the cost of entry down and sell their own software instead of Microsoft's.

Luis


---- Jim Hutchinson <jim@ubuntu-rocks.org> wrote:
> On Feb 4, 2008 6:00 PM, Barb Tabor <btabor@btownccs.k12.in.us> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I am thinking of setting up a lab of thin clients using Edubuntu at one of
> > our elementary schools.
> > The teachers are very into AR (Accelerated Reader), STAR Reading and Math.
> > We are thinking of going to Renaissance Place with Enterprise.
> > Has anyone used Ren. Place with Edubuntu?
> > Any suggestions/recommendations would be appreciated.
> > Thanks.
> >
>
> I have no idea about the tech specs, but as a teacher who used to
> advocate for AR and now doesn't I think you might be able to find
> better uses for your lab than running AR or anything similar. I'm not
> going to use this as a forum to bash AR, but I will say that
> independent research does not support their claims. Unfortunately,
> once schools have bought in there is little of change (kind of like
> trying to move away from windows).
>
> I am really trying to get our teachers to use tools like Kig (I wish
> this project was more active than it seems) and others to enhance math
> instruction and move away from using computers for just drill and
> practice or creating copy and paste presentations. Sorry, starting on
> one of my rants.
>
> Anyway, good luck.
> Jim
> --
> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
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Old 02-05-2008, 06:20 PM
"Kemp, Levi"
 
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Title: Re: Edubuntu and Renaissance Place



Actually We have a K12LTSP lab setup, fedora not ubuntu, but I did test it with AR and it does work. The plugin for printing is negated by the fact that the reports are in pdf format and can be printed from there. We don't use AR in the building though, we use Reading Counts, but both do work in an LTSP environment and with Firefox. So go ahead and give it a try, if it doesn't let you use it with Firefox you may need the add-on that disguises Firefox as another browser, but I don't think it's needed.
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Don't hesitate to bash it. This and the k12 list are the best place to discuss educational software, IMHO.

The only thing renlearn has of value is their data on the tests. Why they would choose to build their software on a windows platform is beyond me.
It would make much more sense to use mysql or postgresql on top of apache and or tomcat and support multiple platforms. Keep the cost of entry down and sell their own software instead of Microsoft's.

Luis


---- Jim Hutchinson <jim@ubuntu-rocks.org> wrote:
> On Feb 4, 2008 6:00 PM, Barb Tabor <btabor@btownccs.k12.in.us> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I am thinking of setting up a lab of thin clients using Edubuntu at one of
> > our elementary schools.
> > The teachers are very into AR (Accelerated Reader), STAR Reading and Math.
> > We are thinking of going to Renaissance Place with Enterprise.
> > Has anyone used Ren. Place with Edubuntu?
> > Any suggestions/recommendations would be appreciated.
> > Thanks.
> >
>
> I have no idea about the tech specs, but as a teacher who used to
> advocate for AR and now doesn't I think you might be able to find
> better uses for your lab than running AR or anything similar. I'm not
> going to use this as a forum to bash AR, but I will say that
> independent research does not support their claims. Unfortunately,
> once schools have bought in there is little of change (kind of like
> trying to move away from windows).
>
> I am really trying to get our teachers to use tools like Kig (I wish
> this project was more active than it seems) and others to enhance math
> instruction and move away from using computers for just drill and
> practice or creating copy and paste presentations. Sorry, starting on
> one of my rants.
>
> Anyway, good luck.
> Jim
> --
> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
>
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