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DB Clinton 01-06-2008 09:14 PM

7.1.0 server installation issues
 
I installed Edubuntu Server on a box (1.7ghz, 4gigHD, 256RAM) that's not
connected to the internet to see whether a clean install would at least
give me the basics of thin client networking. I had little success in
that area (besides the fact that the Edubuntu box can access files on a
Win98 box via Samba).
But that's not my problem right now: for some reason none of the
educational packages were installed on the system (it's not that there
wasn't enough space: there are still 1.3gig left on the hard drive) and
Synaptic doesn't have any reference to them (even with the CD in the
drive). Also, none of the media players will work because they lack
codecs. Do all of these packages require Internet access? If so, does
that mean that 'buntus are pretty much useless without the Internet?

Next question:
I uninstalled my Wubi version of Edubuntu from my own computer and
prepared to replace it with real disk partition to create a dual-boot (I
first did a disk defrag from Windows and checked the integrity of the
Edubuntu CD). The partition went well, but the install itself froze late
in the process while installing BRI TTY (or something like it).
Naturally, when I rebooted, the system went nowhere. I tried again from
scratch (hoping the install process would somehow pick up on the
previous failed attempt - to no avail) and this time, too, it froze,
leaving a message "Build LTSP chroot failed".
But for the grace of SYSRESCUECD I would now be left with nothing - but
I'm at least back in my old WinXP.
Running the Edubuntu CD's rescue mode was entirely unhelpful.
Is there any way to rescue what's been lost and/or is there any way to
avoid such crashes on future installs?
With thanks again,
David Clinton

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"Charles Austin" 01-06-2008 10:26 PM

7.1.0 server installation issues
 
On Jan 6, 2008 5:14 PM, DB Clinton <dbclin@gmail.com> wrote:

I installed Edubuntu Server on a box (1.7ghz, 4gigHD, 256RAM) that's not
connected to the internet to see whether a clean install would at least
give me the basics of thin client networking. I had little success in

that area You may be OK with a standard Edubuntu workstation, but I don't see a server running on less than 1GB of RAM.
*
(besides the fact that the Edubuntu box can access files on a
Win98 box via Samba).
But that's not my problem right now: for some reason none of the
educational packages were installed on the system
*I have this same experience with 7.10.* The educational packages are easy enough to install from the net, why don't you have it connected?
*
(it's not that there
wasn't enough space: there are still 1.3gig left on the hard drive) and
Synaptic doesn't have any reference to them (even with the CD in the
drive). Also, none of the media players will work because they lack

codecs. Do all of these packages require Internet access? If so, does
that mean that 'buntus are pretty much useless without the Internet?

I would at least give the box internet access for the install, even if you decide to disconnect it later.


Next question:
I uninstalled my Wubi version of Edubuntu from my own computer and

prepared to replace it with real disk partition to create a dual-boot (I
first did a disk defrag from Windows and checked the integrity of the
Edubuntu CD). The partition went well, but the install itself froze late

in the process while installing BRI TTY (or something like it).
Naturally, when I rebooted, the system went nowhere. I tried again from
scratch (hoping the install process would somehow pick up on the
previous failed attempt - to no avail) and this time, too, it froze,

leaving a message "Build LTSP chroot failed".
But for the grace of SYSRESCUECD I would now be left with nothing - but
I'm at least back in my old WinXP.
Running the Edubuntu CD's rescue mode was entirely unhelpful.

Is there any way to rescue what's been lost and/or is there any way to
avoid such crashes on future installs?
With thanks again,
David Clinton


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"Joe Gedeon" 01-06-2008 11:01 PM

7.1.0 server installation issues
 
Aren't the educational packages on the second CD for the Edubuntu Server Edition?

On Jan 6, 2008 6:26 PM, Charles Austin <ceaustin@gmail.com> wrote:



On Jan 6, 2008 5:14 PM, DB Clinton <
dbclin@gmail.com> wrote:

I installed Edubuntu Server on a box (1.7ghz, 4gigHD, 256RAM) that's not
connected to the internet to see whether a clean install would at least
give me the basics of thin client networking. I had little success in

that area You may be OK with a standard Edubuntu workstation, but I don't see a server running on less than 1GB of RAM.
*

(besides the fact that the Edubuntu box can access files on a
Win98 box via Samba).
But that's not my problem right now: for some reason none of the
educational packages were installed on the system

*I have this same experience with 7.10.* The educational packages are easy enough to install from the net, why don't you have it connected?
*

(it's not that there
wasn't enough space: there are still 1.3gig left on the hard drive) and
Synaptic doesn't have any reference to them (even with the CD in the
drive). Also, none of the media players will work because they lack

codecs. Do all of these packages require Internet access? If so, does
that mean that 'buntus are pretty much useless without the Internet?

I would at least give the box internet access for the install, even if you decide to disconnect it later.


Next question:
I uninstalled my Wubi version of Edubuntu from my own computer and

prepared to replace it with real disk partition to create a dual-boot (I
first did a disk defrag from Windows and checked the integrity of the
Edubuntu CD). The partition went well, but the install itself froze late

in the process while installing BRI TTY (or something like it).
Naturally, when I rebooted, the system went nowhere. I tried again from
scratch (hoping the install process would somehow pick up on the
previous failed attempt - to no avail) and this time, too, it froze,

leaving a message "Build LTSP chroot failed".
But for the grace of SYSRESCUECD I would now be left with nothing - but
I'm at least back in my old WinXP.
Running the Edubuntu CD's rescue mode was entirely unhelpful.

Is there any way to rescue what's been lost and/or is there any way to
avoid such crashes on future installs?

With thanks again,
David Clinton



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DB Clinton 01-07-2008 12:56 AM

7.1.0 server installation issues
 
Joe Gedeon wrote

> Aren't the educational packages on the second CD for the Edubuntu
Server Edition?

Oops. They certainly are.
Thanks.

Charles Austin wrote:
> You may be OK with a standard Edubuntu workstation, but I don't see a
server running on less than 1GB of RAM.

I only installed it that way as an experiment. I don't intend to do
anything serious with it.

> I would at least give the box internet access for the install, even
if you decide to disconnect it > later.

That's an idea. Thanks.





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Gavin McCullagh 01-07-2008 08:29 AM

7.1.0 server installation issues
 
Hi,

On Sun, 06 Jan 2008, DB Clinton wrote:

> I installed Edubuntu Server on a box (1.7ghz, 4gigHD, 256RAM) that's not
> connected to the internet to see whether a clean install would at least
> give me the basics of thin client networking. I had little success in
> that area (besides the fact that the Edubuntu box can access files on a
> Win98 box via Samba).

When you've finished installing packages, can I suggest you try approaching
the thin client problem like this:

1. Set a static IP address on the interface which faces the thin clients.
2. Make sure the DHCP server is running and configured as you want it.
3. Get a windows PC, place it on the network with the edubuntu dhcp server
and make sure it can get an ip address from that dhcp server which must
be the only dhcp server in place on that network.
4. Just to be sure, set a static ip address for your windows PC in
/etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf, then reboot or refresh the IP in windows and
verify windows gets the new ip address.

Until this works, thin clients simply will not work.

Gavin



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