FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
» Video Reviews

» Linux Archive

Linux-archive is a website aiming to archive linux email lists and to make them easily accessible for linux users/developers.


» Sponsor

» Partners

» Sponsor

Go Back   Linux Archive > Ubuntu > Edubuntu User

 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
 
Old 12-17-2008, 11:33 AM
"Todd O'Bryan"
 
Default Help--update killed everything

Sorry for the cross-post, but students are arriving in 15 mins and I'm desperate.

I updated my two Ubuntu 8.04 servers with LTSP to 8.10 last night. Once they finished, I copied over my old LTSP images to /opt/ltsp-8.04 and ran ltsp-build-client from scratch to create a new image.


Now, when I boot the clients, something very strange happens.

I use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to follow the boot progress in the terminal. After displaying the "Loading hardward drivers" (which takes a while) message, the background flashes green. It gets to the "Creating authfile...(something)" message and then the monitor goes black. Not only that, whatever signal the client is sending to the monitor is so offensive that at this point, not even the monitor menu button on the front works.


The clients are NTAVO 6020P's and the monitors are HP 1706's.

Any ideas what could be going on?

Todd

--
edubuntu-users mailing list
edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
 
Old 12-17-2008, 12:04 PM
"Todd O'Bryan"
 
Default Help--update killed everything

Another piece of information. For some reason the update from 8.04 to 8.10 just deleted--completely--my lts.conf file in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386. In fact, the tftpboot directory and everything below it got wiped out from /var/lib. I guess I'd call that a bug in the upgrade process.


On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Todd O'Bryan <toddobryan@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry for the cross-post, but students are arriving in 15 mins and I'm desperate.

I updated my two Ubuntu 8.04 servers with LTSP to 8.10 last night. Once they finished, I copied over my old LTSP images to /opt/ltsp-8.04 and ran ltsp-build-client from scratch to create a new image.



Now, when I boot the clients, something very strange happens.

I use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to follow the boot progress in the terminal. After displaying the "Loading hardward drivers" (which takes a while) message, the background flashes green. It gets to the "Creating authfile...(something)" message and then the monitor goes black. Not only that, whatever signal the client is sending to the monitor is so offensive that at this point, not even the monitor menu button on the front works.



The clients are NTAVO 6020P's and the monitors are HP 1706's.

Any ideas what could be going on?

Todd



--
edubuntu-users mailing list
edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
 
Old 12-17-2008, 12:16 PM
"Todd O'Bryan"
 
Default Help--update killed everything

Scratch that. I had ssh'ed to the wrong server. Which could explain why none of the changes I made did anything. :-/

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Todd O'Bryan <toddobryan@gmail.com> wrote:

Another piece of information. For some reason the update from 8.04 to 8.10 just deleted--completely--my lts.conf file in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386. In fact, the tftpboot directory and everything below it got wiped out from /var/lib. I guess I'd call that a bug in the upgrade process.



On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Todd O'Bryan <toddobryan@gmail.com> wrote:


Sorry for the cross-post, but students are arriving in 15 mins and I'm desperate.

I updated my two Ubuntu 8.04 servers with LTSP to 8.10 last night. Once they finished, I copied over my old LTSP images to /opt/ltsp-8.04 and ran ltsp-build-client from scratch to create a new image.




Now, when I boot the clients, something very strange happens.

I use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to follow the boot progress in the terminal. After displaying the "Loading hardward drivers" (which takes a while) message, the background flashes green. It gets to the "Creating authfile...(something)" message and then the monitor goes black. Not only that, whatever signal the client is sending to the monitor is so offensive that at this point, not even the monitor menu button on the front works.




The clients are NTAVO 6020P's and the monitors are HP 1706's.

Any ideas what could be going on?

Todd





--
edubuntu-users mailing list
edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
 
Old 12-17-2008, 12:46 PM
"Todd O'Bryan"
 
Default Help--update killed everything

OK. I tried getting rid of the lts.conf file so that it would use all the defaults. Same problem.
I tried with the lts.conf file that worked with 8.04. Same problem.

I reverted to the old 8.04 ltsp image and, as long as I get rid of the lts.conf file that was working yesterday, it works. That is, students boot from an 8.04 image and then run from the server, which is running 8.10. Obviously, this is not an ideal solution--I can imagine there being incompatibilities between the libraries installed, but it's working for right now.


I've done ltsp-update-sshkeys, I've done ltsp-update-image. Anything else I can try?


On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Todd O'Bryan <toddobryan@gmail.com> wrote:

Scratch that. I had ssh'ed to the wrong server. Which could explain why none of the changes I made did anything. :-/


On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Todd O'Bryan <toddobryan@gmail.com> wrote:


Another piece of information. For some reason the update from 8.04 to 8.10 just deleted--completely--my lts.conf file in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386. In fact, the tftpboot directory and everything below it got wiped out from /var/lib. I guess I'd call that a bug in the upgrade process.




On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Todd O'Bryan <toddobryan@gmail.com> wrote:



Sorry for the cross-post, but students are arriving in 15 mins and I'm desperate.

I updated my two Ubuntu 8.04 servers with LTSP to 8.10 last night. Once they finished, I copied over my old LTSP images to /opt/ltsp-8.04 and ran ltsp-build-client from scratch to create a new image.





Now, when I boot the clients, something very strange happens.

I use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to follow the boot progress in the terminal. After displaying the "Loading hardward drivers" (which takes a while) message, the background flashes green. It gets to the "Creating authfile...(something)" message and then the monitor goes black. Not only that, whatever signal the client is sending to the monitor is so offensive that at this point, not even the monitor menu button on the front works.





The clients are NTAVO 6020P's and the monitors are HP 1706's.

Any ideas what could be going on?

Todd







--
edubuntu-users mailing list
edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
 
Old 12-17-2008, 04:46 PM
"Todd O'Bryan"
 
Default Help--update killed everything

OK. I just noticed something strange. When I try to update the chroot area, if I leave it with the default repos enabled, I get no updates. If I add

deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-updates main restricted


to get backports, it wants to install lilo and mbr, but I'm pretty sure I don't want those in a thin-client image. Is there something weird going on? Do I really want lilo and mbr? Should I remove them manually after they're installed?


This is just silly...

Todd

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Todd O'Bryan <toddobryan@gmail.com> wrote:

OK. I tried getting rid of the lts.conf file so that it would use all the defaults. Same problem.

I tried with the lts.conf file that worked with 8.04. Same problem.

I reverted to the old 8.04 ltsp image and, as long as I get rid of the lts.conf file that was working yesterday, it works. That is, students boot from an 8.04 image and then run from the server, which is running 8.10. Obviously, this is not an ideal solution--I can imagine there being incompatibilities between the libraries installed, but it's working for right now.



I've done ltsp-update-sshkeys, I've done ltsp-update-image. Anything else I can try?


On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Todd O'Bryan <toddobryan@gmail.com> wrote:


Scratch that. I had ssh'ed to the wrong server. Which could explain why none of the changes I made did anything. :-/



On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Todd O'Bryan <toddobryan@gmail.com> wrote:


Another piece of information. For some reason the update from 8.04 to 8.10 just deleted--completely--my lts.conf file in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386. In fact, the tftpboot directory and everything below it got wiped out from /var/lib. I guess I'd call that a bug in the upgrade process.





On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Todd O'Bryan <toddobryan@gmail.com> wrote:




Sorry for the cross-post, but students are arriving in 15 mins and I'm desperate.

I updated my two Ubuntu 8.04 servers with LTSP to 8.10 last night. Once they finished, I copied over my old LTSP images to /opt/ltsp-8.04 and ran ltsp-build-client from scratch to create a new image.






Now, when I boot the clients, something very strange happens.

I use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to follow the boot progress in the terminal. After displaying the "Loading hardward drivers" (which takes a while) message, the background flashes green. It gets to the "Creating authfile...(something)" message and then the monitor goes black. Not only that, whatever signal the client is sending to the monitor is so offensive that at this point, not even the monitor menu button on the front works.






The clients are NTAVO 6020P's and the monitors are HP 1706's.

Any ideas what could be going on?

Todd









--
edubuntu-users mailing list
edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
 
Old 12-17-2008, 05:46 PM
Asmo Koskinen
 
Default Help--update killed everything

Todd O'Bryan kirjoitti:

> Do I really want lilo and mbr? Should I remove them manually
> after they're installed?

Just remove them after...

Best Regards Asmo Koskinen.

--
edubuntu-users mailing list
edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
 
Old 12-17-2008, 06:07 PM
Scott Balneaves
 
Default Help--update killed everything

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:46:17PM -0500, Todd O'Bryan wrote:
> OK. I just noticed something strange. When I try to update the chroot area,
> if I leave it with the default repos enabled, I get no updates. If I add
>
> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-updates main restricted
>
> to get backports, it wants to install lilo and mbr, but I'm pretty sure I
> don't want those in a thin-client image. Is there something weird going on?
> Do I really want lilo and mbr? Should I remove them manually after they're
> installed?

They don't hurt anything, and are just part of a standard install, so you can
just ignore them.

Scott

--
Scott L. Balneaves | Life may have no meaning... or even worse,
Systems Department | it may have a meaning of which I disapprove.
Legal Aid Manitoba | -- Ashleigh Brilliant

--
edubuntu-users mailing list
edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
 
Old 12-18-2008, 01:16 PM
"Todd O'Bryan"
 
Default Help--update killed everything

OK. Still not working. I think I'm going to try a fresh install of 8.10. My big hesitation in doing that is that I have LDAP and Kerberos authentication set up and restoring them scares me. I'll let you know how it goes.


Todd

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Scott Balneaves <sbalneav@legalaid.mb.ca> wrote:

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:46:17PM -0500, Todd O'Bryan wrote:

> OK. I just noticed something strange. When I try to update the chroot area,

> if I leave it with the default repos enabled, I get no updates. If I add

>

> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-updates main restricted

>

> to get backports, it wants to install lilo and mbr, but I'm pretty sure I

> don't want those in a thin-client image. Is there something weird going on?

> Do I really want lilo and mbr? Should I remove them manually after they're

> installed?



They don't hurt anything, and are just part of a standard install, so you can

just ignore them.



Scott



--

Scott L. Balneaves | Life may have no meaning... or even worse,

Systems Department | it may have a meaning of which I disapprove.

Legal Aid Manitoba | * * -- Ashleigh Brilliant



--

edubuntu-users mailing list

edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com

Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users



--
edubuntu-users mailing list
edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
 
Old 12-18-2008, 05:11 PM
"Todd O'Bryan"
 
Default Help--update killed everything

Well, before I do that, I got remote logging working and here's what I got:

Dec 18 13:03:16 host12 kernel: [** 38.797326] scsi0 : pata_via
Dec 18 13:03:16 host12 kernel: [** 38.809632] scsi1 : pata_via
Dec 18 13:03:16 host12 kernel: [** 38.818906] ata1: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x1f0

ctl 0x3f6 bmdma 0xe000 irq 14
Dec 18 13:03:16 host12 kernel: [** 38.818927] ata2: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x170
ctl 0x376 bmdma 0xe008 irq 15
Dec 18 13:03:16 host12 kernel: [** 43.792574] VIA 82xx Audio 0000:00:11.5: PCI INT C -> Link[LNKC] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11

Dec 18 13:03:16 host12 kernel: [** 43.792763] VIA 82xx Audio 0000:00:11.5: setting latency timer to 64
Dec 18 13:03:16 host12 kernel: [** 50.118473] lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).
Dec 18 13:03:16 host12 kernel: [** 51.214019] nbd0: NBD_DISCONNECT

Dec 18 13:03:16 host12 kernel: [** 51.215184] nbd0: Receive control failed (result -32)
Dec 18 13:03:16 host12 kernel: [** 51.215341] nbd0: queue cleared
Dec 18 13:03:21 200-202-server-1 ldminfod[27426]: connect from 192.168.202.112 (192.168.202.112)

Dec 18 13:03:22 host12 kernel: [** 60.362721] NET: Registered protocol family 10
Dec 18 13:03:22 host12 kernel: [** 60.403926] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
Dec 18 13:03:24 200-202-server-1 ldminfod[27441]: connect from 192.168.202.112 (192.168.202.112)


The last line repeats, seemingly ad infinitum.

Dec 18 13:11:35 200-202-server-1 ldminfod[470]: connect from 192.168.202.112 (192.168.202.112)
Dec 18 13:11:35 200-202-server-1 ldminfod[473]: connect from 192.168.202.112 (192.168.202.112)

Dec 18 13:11:35 200-202-server-1 ldminfod[478]: connect from 192.168.202.112 (192.168.202.112)
Dec 18 13:11:36 200-202-server-1 ldminfod[482]: connect from 192.168.202.112 (192.168.202.112)
Dec 18 13:11:36 200-202-server-1 ldminfod[485]: connect from 192.168.202.112 (192.168.202.112)

Dec 18 13:11:37 200-202-server-1 ldminfod[488]: connect from 192.168.202.112 (192.168.202.112)
Dec 18 13:11:37 200-202-server-1 ldminfod[493]: connect from 192.168.202.112 (192.168.202.112)
Dec 18 13:11:38 200-202-server-1 ldminfod[503]: connect from 192.168.202.112 (192.168.202.112)

Dec 18 13:11:38 200-202-server-1 ldminfod[507]: connect from 192.168.202.112 (192.168.202.112)
Dec 18 13:11:38 200-202-server-1 ldminfod[510]: connect from 192.168.202.112 (192.168.202.112)
Dec 18 13:11:39 200-202-server-1 ldminfod[516]: connect from 192.168.202.112 (192.168.202.112)


Any ideas?
Todd

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Todd O'Bryan <toddobryan@gmail.com> wrote:

OK. Still not working. I think I'm going to try a fresh install of 8.10. My big hesitation in doing that is that I have LDAP and Kerberos authentication set up and restoring them scares me. I'll let you know how it goes.



Todd

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Scott Balneaves <sbalneav@legalaid.mb.ca> wrote:


On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:46:17PM -0500, Todd O'Bryan wrote:

> OK. I just noticed something strange. When I try to update the chroot area,

> if I leave it with the default repos enabled, I get no updates. If I add

>

> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-updates main restricted

>

> to get backports, it wants to install lilo and mbr, but I'm pretty sure I

> don't want those in a thin-client image. Is there something weird going on?

> Do I really want lilo and mbr? Should I remove them manually after they're

> installed?



They don't hurt anything, and are just part of a standard install, so you can

just ignore them.



Scott



--

Scott L. Balneaves | Life may have no meaning... or even worse,

Systems Department | it may have a meaning of which I disapprove.

Legal Aid Manitoba | * * -- Ashleigh Brilliant



--

edubuntu-users mailing list

edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com

Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users





--
edubuntu-users mailing list
edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
 
Old 12-29-2008, 02:52 AM
"Todd O'Bryan"
 
Default Help--update killed everything

SOLVED!

It turns out my problem was already reported, but since I didn't know
which video chipset my clients have, I didn't know what to search for.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/module-init-tools/+bug/208137

So, if your thin clients have VIA CLE266 chipsets--like the Devon IT
NTAVO 6020P's--add vt8623fb to the blacklist as explained in the bug
report.

Todd

--
edubuntu-users mailing list
edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
 

Thread Tools




All times are GMT. The time now is 01:07 AM.

VBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO ©2007, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright 2007 - 2008, www.linux-archive.org