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Old 08-06-2008, 12:57 PM
"Anh Hung Nguyen"
 
Default Enquiry about Edubuntu in the classroom

Dear all,

I'm currently working on a project proposal that in effect brings open source and web 2.0 technologies to the classroom. The target audience will be disadvantaged children in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.


However, I'm not from a technical background so it's hard for me to visualize how the the LTSP on Edubuntu will work out in* reality. I am wondering if the thin-client network actually has an edge over a traditional fat-client.


If it is, what is a typical configuration for a server which caters to around 25 (and possibly) more clients which enable children to access web 2.0 site for the learning. How about 3D applications such as Google earth?


I would love to learn from your experience in using Edubuntu and open source technologies in general in an educational environment.

There's one thing that also bugs me. Since almost all the companies here are using either licensed or pirated versions of Ms Windows, what are the career prospects for students who study Edubuntu and online collaborative tools such as Google Docs or ZOHO?


And is it difficult to train for teachers and staff to get hold of the new technology as they are the keys to the success of the project, especially when they are Vietnamese and can speak little English.

Also, is there anyone from the Ubuntu Education Fund participating in this mailing list too? It's such a nice model that I hope to learn from.

I highly appreciate all of your responses.

Thanks and regards,
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Nguyen Anh Hung
Foreign Trade University, HCMC
Southeast Asian Service Leadership Network
0987 005 477




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Old 08-07-2008, 08:12 PM
Uwe Geercken
 
Default Enquiry about Edubuntu in the classroom

Anh Hung,

I am giving linux lessons at our local school in germany using
edubuntu. we have one server - a quad core, 4gb machine - that I put
together myself. I am teaching up to 10 children at one time. a clear
limitation that I see are: games and video. the server has problems of
distributing a lot of data in forms of screens to all clients. other
than that, it is 100% ok. depending on your setup, you might not have
the same limitations as I have here. of course it also depends what
clients you use and what network you have. let us know a little bit
more about your setup please.

in my case the school clearly indicated that I can not change any of
the existing computers inb the computer lab which are running windows
xp. so we got this server, I hook it up to the network before the
lesson and then all clients boot from the edubuntu server. that was
the perfect solution for me.

linux nowadays is quickly going forward. people start to recognize
linux and that it brings benefits. my argument is always: teach the
students both windows and linux. then later when the time is right,
they can coose themselves what they like and what they prefer or where
they see the greatest benefit for themselves.

I don't know if edubuntu is available in vietnamese, but linux is very
much multi-lingual out-of-the-box. if vietnamese is not available, go
ahead and launch a project to translate it to your language. with lots
of helping hands that is doable!

be patient. it took me a long time to convince people from the school
to also use linux and that it is beneficial for the students. after
more than a year of talking - also to parents - it is progressing. but
the steps are small. but I don't care because I have a lot of fun with
my students (10-14 years old) and when I see that they have understood
and learned something and keep on comming to my lessons (which are
extra hours in the afternoon) I am proud and have enough strength to
carry on.

good luck. and have a nice day.

uwe



Quoting Anh Hung Nguyen <anhhung@gmail.com>:

> Dear all,
>
> I'm currently working on a project proposal that in effect brings open
> source and web 2.0 technologies to the classroom. The target audience will
> be disadvantaged children in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.
>
> However, I'm not from a technical background so it's hard for me to
> visualize how the the LTSP on Edubuntu will work out in reality. I am
> wondering if the thin-client network actually has an edge over a traditional
> fat-client.
>
> If it is, what is a typical configuration for a server which caters to
> around 25 (and possibly) more clients which enable children to access web
> 2.0 site for the learning. How about 3D applications such as Google earth?
>
> I would love to learn from your experience in using Edubuntu and open source
> technologies in general in an educational environment.
>
> There's one thing that also bugs me. Since almost all the companies here are
> using either licensed or pirated versions of Ms Windows, what are the career
> prospects for students who study Edubuntu and online collaborative tools
> such as Google Docs or ZOHO?
>
> And is it difficult to train for teachers and staff to get hold of the new
> technology as they are the keys to the success of the project, especially
> when they are Vietnamese and can speak little English.
>
> Also, is there anyone from the Ubuntu Education Fund participating in this
> mailing list too? It's such a nice model that I hope to learn from.
> I highly appreciate all of your responses.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> --
> Nguyen Anh Hung
> Foreign Trade University, HCMC
> Southeast Asian Service Leadership Network
> 0987 005 477
>



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Old 08-24-2008, 04:11 PM
"M. Fioretti"
 
Default Enquiry about Edubuntu in the classroom

On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 19:57:35 PM +0700, Anh Hung Nguyen wrote:

> I'm currently working on a project proposal that in effect brings
> open source and web 2.0 technologies to the classroom. The target
> audience will be disadvantaged children in Ho Chi Minh City,
> Vietnam.

does this school have, or will have, a website? If yes, please let me
know, I'd be glad to add it in the database of Digitally Free Schools
at http://digifreedom.net/node/55 . You may also try to contact by
yourself the schools listed there which seem to have requirements more
similar to yours and ask directly to their administrators.

> There's one thing that also bugs me. Since almost all the companies
> here are using either licensed or pirated versions of Ms Windows,
> what are the career prospects for students who study Edubuntu and
> online collaborative tools such as Google Docs or ZOHO?

Assuming that those companies will still be (legally, economically,
technically) able to work that way when your current students are out
of scool, or that they'll still want to, one of the reasons to insist
on Open Source, Open formats training is to be able to apply for the
**best** jobs.

FOSS specific skills "may" be an overkill or even an obstacle if all
you need is to type in a pirated copy of MS Word, but they may very
well be more valuable if your students want to work abroad, or locally
in an international company, exactly because many such companies
already have started to see that FOSS makes sense for them too.

Hope this helps,
Marco Fioretti
--
Your own civil rights and the quality of your life heavily depend on how
software is used *around* you: http://digifreedom.net/node/84

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