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Jeremy Bicha 03-12-2010 10:27 AM

Fwd: Time to Orphan?
 
Dan, Penny, and others,

I also don't have the skill to complete the 1.9 packaging. I'm
forwarding this to the Edubuntu developers as moodle has been part of
their suite for a while.

Jeremy Bicha


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From: Penny Leach <penny@mjollnir.org>
Date: Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [moodle-packaging] Time to Orphan?
To: pkg-moodle-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org


On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:34:10AM +0000, Dan Poltawski wrote:
> Neither Penny or I are getting enough time to sufficiently
> produce/maintain the Moodle package and we've just discussed that fact
> that it seems like now is the time should consider orphaning the
> pacakage and getting it removed.
>
> In my opinion its much worse for us to have the package in debian but
> without proper maintenance than to not have it at all.
>
> We've not really been fast enough to respond to security issues or
> even complete the new 1.9 package in recent months and I don't think
> we can see this improving in the future.
>
> What does everyone else think?

I think it's very unfortunate actually, and I'd love to be able to fix the
package- but I do wonder how many people really use Moodle from the Debian
package? *Popcon indicates more than I thought actually:

http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=moodle

But still it's not much.

I definitely agree it's better to have no Moodle in Debian than the
dreadful package that we have there now.

We should also talk to the ubuntu guys too - are any of them on this list?

Cheers,
P

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Gavin McCullagh 03-12-2010 01:21 PM

Fwd: Time to Orphan?
 
Hi,

On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, Jeremy Bicha wrote:

> I also don't have the skill to complete the 1.9 packaging. I'm
> forwarding this to the Edubuntu developers as moodle has been part of
> their suite for a while.

This is a rare situation where my job and Edubuntu overlap. I work at a
third level college and among other things maintain a moodle system.

We used the debian moodle packages initially, but realised after a while
that it made more sense for us to just use the upstream Moodle source.
That said, I can imagine it would be valuable for others to have moodle in
Debian/Ubuntu.

> I think it's very unfortunate actually, and I'd love to be able to fix the
> package- but I do wonder how many people really use Moodle from the Debian
> package? *

Is there a buglist or a list of tasks that I could look at? I'm not saying
I could take on the maintenance, but perhaps I could help out. I'm not a
debian or (ed)ubuntu developer.

Gavin


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"Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)" 05-19-2010 01:27 PM

Fwd: Time to Orphan?
 
Hi Jeremy, Dan, Penny and others

On 12/03/2010 13:27, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> I also don't have the skill to complete the 1.9 packaging. I'm
> forwarding this to the Edubuntu developers as moodle has been part of
> their suite for a while.

Posting this to edubuntu-devel too, but will probably continue on the
debian list[1] to avoid continual cross-posting.

We discussed this before and during the Ubuntu Developer Summit last
week. We considered the possibility of having a moodle-tools kind of
package that installs and aids in maintaining a Moodle installation
rather than doing a packaged version. However, we ended up deciding that
the benefits of a packaged Moodle system to our users is much greater.

I'm interested in doing Moodle packaging work in Debian, and others have
also shown interest. Would it be possible from the current maintainers
to give an overview of the current packaging, what the current problems
are and what needs to be done so that we have an idea where to take off?
We'll also need sponsoring in Debian since we're not Debian Maintainers
(yet). It would be great if we could have some kind of Q&A session on
IRC or somewhere.

thanks!

-Jonathan

[1] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-moodle-maintainers

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"Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)" 05-19-2010 06:31 PM

Fwd: Time to Orphan?
 
Hi Tomek

On 19/05/2010 19:59, Tomasz Muras wrote:
> I would love to see more people joining as maintainers of Moodle in
> Debian. If you want, I can put on the wiki some further ideas that I
> have about improving the package. You could also start with taking the
> package from git and checking if it works in Ubuntu - maybe we could use
> the same VCS for both Ubuntu and Debian packaging?

That wiki page is already very informative- thanks! I'll get the package
from git and test it in Ubuntu some time over the next week or so. I
guess it makes sense that we work from the same VCS, so git it is!

-Jonathan

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