Maybe looks good to use a "burned orange"...

2008/7/9 Máirín Duffy <duffy@fedoraproject.org>:
> Martin Sourada wrote:
>>
>> As promised, here is next batch of sketches of
>> preferences-system-firewall. I modified the wall to use darker shades of
>> red and also to have slightly different bricks so they are not all same.
>> In the first take I also changed the lock to better contrast with the
>> wall, in the second take I tried using globe together with the wall and
>> in the third take I used display with the wall (whole computer would
>> make the icon really crowded).
>
> fwiw I think that red color is way too bright. It hurts my eyes to look at
> it.
>
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2008/7/9 Martin Sourada <martin.sourada@gmail.com>:
> As promised, here is next batch of sketches of
> preferences-system-firewall. I modified the wall to use darker shades of
> red and also to have slightly different bricks so they are not all same.
> In the first take I also changed the lock to better contrast with the
> wall, in the second take I tried using globe together with the wall and
> in the third take I used display with the wall (whole computer would
> make the icon really crowded).
>
> I personally still tend towards liking the one with lock the most so if
> anyone agrees, I'd rather focus my efforts on further improving that
> design (the wall still IMHO needs some improvements, also this design
> would require quite a lot of work on smaller sizes as well).
>
> This time I didn't do the gimp post-processing, per Nicu's, IMHO quite
> reasonable, request. If we feel like needing it, we can document it
> somewhere...
>
> Due to size restrictions on the list I attach only PNGs, the rest is at:
>
> http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/Applications/
>
> Comments welcome,
> Martin

They look nice.
But how would it look when you cut out the lock item in the wall?
Also the red can use a bit of color variations. I would go for orange btw..

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On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 22:58 -0300, Jayme Ayres wrote:
> Maybe looks good to use a "burned orange"...
>
Hm... interesting idea.

> 2008/7/9 Máirín Duffy <duffy@fedoraproject.org>:
> >
> > fwiw I think that red color is way too bright. It hurts my eyes to look at
> > it.
> >
Yeah, I have the same feeling, that was why I was trying to make the red
darker, however making it even darker than in the posted sketches didn't
seem to work :-/ Maybe orange colour would be indeed better.

On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 21:22 +0200, Mark wrote:
> They look nice.
> But how would it look when you cut out the lock item in the wall?
I don't understand what you mean by that. Perhaps something like
sculpturing or carving? (please forgive my English here, I am not at all
sure about the right words to use there).

> Also the red can use a bit of color variations. I would go for orange
> btw..
>
Yeah, you're the second person actually suggesting that (IIRC), so I
gave it a try. And IMHO it really looks better than red and is easier on
eyes. See the attachment.

Martin

PS: the orange wall is the first one I don't have a feeling that
something is not right with it when I look at it :-D

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Hey Martin,

Martin Sourada wrote:

On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 22:58 -0300, Jayme Ayres wrote:

Maybe looks good to use a "burned orange"...


Hm... interesting idea.


2008/7/9 Máirín Duffy <duffy@fedoraproject.org>:

fwiw I think that red color is way too bright. It hurts my eyes to look at
it.


Yeah, I have the same feeling, that was why I was trying to make the red
darker, however making it even darker than in the posted sketches didn't
seem to work :-/ Maybe orange colour would be indeed better.


I have an idea. How about instead of having a gradient from say black to
the red, try a transparent dark green => clear alpha gradient on top of
the red? I don't know if that works in on-screen artwork but the way you
do shadows in painting is to add the complementary color to the main
color to darken it rather than just add black.


Or, what might result in the same effect, is make the red a gradient
from a darker/desaturated red to a brighter more saturated red. If you
limit the total area covered by the super bright red the icon might be a
little less harsh on the eyes but the splash of bright color will still
preserve the echo bright color palette.


~m

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2008/7/10 Martin Sourada <martin.sourada@gmail.com>:
> On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 22:58 -0300, Jayme Ayres wrote:
>> Maybe looks good to use a "burned orange"...
>>
> Hm... interesting idea.
>
>> 2008/7/9 Máirín Duffy <duffy@fedoraproject.org>:
>> >
>> > fwiw I think that red color is way too bright. It hurts my eyes to look at
>> > it.
>> >
> Yeah, I have the same feeling, that was why I was trying to make the red
> darker, however making it even darker than in the posted sketches didn't
> seem to work :-/ Maybe orange colour would be indeed better.
>
> On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 21:22 +0200, Mark wrote:
>> They look nice.
>> But how would it look when you cut out the lock item in the wall?
> I don't understand what you mean by that. Perhaps something like
> sculpturing or carving? (please forgive my English here, I am not at all
> sure about the right words to use there).
>
>> Also the red can use a bit of color variations. I would go for orange
>> btw..
>>
> Yeah, you're the second person actually suggesting that (IIRC), so I
> gave it a try. And IMHO it really looks better than red and is easier on
> eyes. See the attachment.
>
> Martin
>
> PS: the orange wall is the first one I don't have a feeling that
> something is not right with it when I look at it :-D

Yeah i meant carving it out.
And for the english.. i am not at all sure about those ones as well.

About your new icon. That looks a lot better then everything else in
this thread.
Good job so far.

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On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 17:20 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> I have an idea. How about instead of having a gradient from say black to
> the red, try a transparent dark green => clear alpha gradient on top of
> the red? I don't know if that works in on-screen artwork but the way you
> do shadows in painting is to add the complementary color to the main
> color to darken it rather than just add black.
>
From what you suggest it seems same like trying gradient from brown to
red, however, the reason that I didn't liked even darker version was
that it was simply too dark, out of place the other icons.

> Or, what might result in the same effect, is make the red a gradient
> from a darker/desaturated red to a brighter more saturated red. If you
> limit the total area covered by the super bright red the icon might be a
> little less harsh on the eyes but the splash of bright color will still
> preserve the echo bright color palette.
>
> ~m
That was precisely what I tried when I attempted making it darker.

Anyway, I've finished other sizes for the orange version, I attach the
PNGs, sources can be find at the usual place [1].

Thanks,
Martin

References:
[1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/Applications/
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Martin Sourada wrote:

On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 17:20 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
I have an idea. How about instead of having a gradient from say black to
the red, try a transparent dark green => clear alpha gradient on top of
the red? I don't know if that works in on-screen artwork but the way you
do shadows in painting is to add the complementary color to the main
color to darken it rather than just add black.



From what you suggest it seems same like trying gradient from brown to
red, however, the reason that I didn't liked even darker version was
that it was simply too dark, out of place the other icons.

Or, what might result in the same effect, is make the red a gradient
from a darker/desaturated red to a brighter more saturated red. If you
limit the total area covered by the super bright red the icon might be a
little less harsh on the eyes but the splash of bright color will still
preserve the echo bright color palette.


~m

That was precisely what I tried when I attempted making it darker.

Anyway, I've finished other sizes for the orange version, I attach the
PNGs, sources can be find at the usual place [1].


These look so much better, great job!

~m

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