FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
» Video Reviews

» Linux Archive

Linux-archive is a website aiming to archive linux email lists and to make them easily accessible for linux users/developers.


» Sponsor

» Partners

» Sponsor

Go Back   Linux Archive > Debian > Debian User

 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
 
Old 04-21-2008, 11:17 PM
"Dennis G. Wicks"
 
Default Which backup package?

Greetings;

It is time that I started getting serious about backing
up my systems. I have nine systems on my network, one
will be used just for backup & restore (Debian/lenny)


I know of amanda and bacula. Are there others I should
look at? Any suggestions, recommendations?


As usual, many TIA!
Dennis


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org
 
Old 04-22-2008, 12:28 AM
Steve Witt
 
Default Which backup package?

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Dennis G. Wicks wrote:


Greetings;

It is time that I started getting serious about backing up my systems. I have
nine systems on my network, one will be used just for backup & restore
(Debian/lenny)


Do you intend to backup to tape? Unless amanda has improved a lot in the
last few years, I'd recommend bacula. I switched from amanda to bacula and
have been much happier. My complaint with amanda was that it didn't
support our tape library at all (a 22 tape library) and we had to
configure the library so it used a new tape every day. bacula does support
tape libraries well and uses the tapes much more efficiently. It stores
the backed up files in a database and so during a restore will be able to
find the correct tape(s) in a multi-tape backup set to load to get the
files you request. The cool thing about this is that it doesn't associate
a tape with a particular backup job, and so is able to fill up the tape as
backups are done over time. I don't know the status of development on
amanda any more, but bacula is being actively maintained.








--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org
 
Old 04-22-2008, 12:58 AM
"John Fleming"
 
Default Which backup package?

I know of amanda and bacula. Are there others I should
look at? Any suggestions, recommendations?


http://www.mondorescue.net/


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org
 
Old 04-22-2008, 01:02 AM
Ron Johnson
 
Default Which backup package?

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On 04/21/08 19:28, Steve Witt wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Dennis G. Wicks wrote:
>
>> Greetings;
>>
>> It is time that I started getting serious about backing up my systems.
>> I have nine systems on my network, one will be used just for backup &
>> restore (Debian/lenny)
>
> Do you intend to backup to tape? Unless amanda has improved a lot in the
> last few years, I'd recommend bacula. I switched from amanda to bacula
> and have been much happier. My complaint with amanda was that it didn't
> support our tape library at all (a 22 tape library) and we had to
> configure the library so it used a new tape every day. bacula does
> support tape libraries well and uses the tapes much more efficiently. It
> stores the backed up files in a database and so during a restore will be
> able to find the correct tape(s) in a multi-tape backup set to load to
> get the files you request. The cool thing about this is that it doesn't
> associate a tape with a particular backup job, and so is able to fill up
> the tape as backups are done over time. I don't know the status of

So multiple, consecutive days of backups are on one tape? IMNSHO,
that's a serious design flaw, because a bad tape would then wipe out
many days of backups, like putting many eggs in a fragile basket.

> development on amanda any more, but bacula is being actively maintained.

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA

We want... a Shrubbery!!
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFIDTlDS9HxQb37XmcRAgFqAJ9W87Js9h3RhsWNnJ+4O7 HR5uLE7gCfVwnN
m8pyB1JL7kyzL0p/WdvxVGc=
=qmui
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org
 
Old 04-22-2008, 01:23 AM
"s. keeling"
 
Default Which backup package?

Dennis G. Wicks <wix@eskimo.com>:
>
> It is time that I started getting serious about backing

s/time/long passed time/

> up my systems. I have nine systems on my network, one
> will be used just for backup & restore (Debian/lenny)

You've offered too few details to go on. Do they all need to be
backed up? How much, how often, how critical are they, what are they,
and what else do you have? If you've a Tandberg or DLT drive
available, that'll work nicely depending on your situation. Or would
a CD/DVD burner do? Or just rsync each of them to another one so
you've a mirror of each if one dies?

There's lots of strategies for doing backups. What happens if your
backup server dies in the middle of a backup (or restore)? Who backs
up the backup server?

You don't need to backup anything that's on the install disks. What
else have you got? Corporate website with backend database?

> I know of amanda and bacula. Are there others I should
> look at? Any suggestions, recommendations?

I've never needed GUI backup programs. I've never understood why
people use them. The point of backing up is making a system easily
and correctly recoverable. Making the backup easy is missing the
point, IMO. It's the restore that I want to be quick and easy.

Roll your own? Mine's hand crafted out of bash, find, afio, and
bzip2, however it's not suitable for enterprisey stuff (though it
could be). It's done a brilliant job of making archives that are easy
to work with, recovering my systems over and over again (I experiment
a lot :-).


--
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
(*) http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292
- - http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html Please, don't Cc: me.


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org
 
Old 04-22-2008, 09:24 AM
George Borisov
 
Default Which backup package?

Dennis G. Wicks wrote:
I know of amanda and bacula. Are there others I should look at? Any
suggestions, recommendations?


I've seen BackupPC mentioned, although I haven't had a chance to try it
out yet.


http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/


HTH,

George.


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org
 
Old 04-22-2008, 10:01 AM
Steven Jones
 
Default Which backup package?

George Borisov wrote:

Dennis G. Wicks wrote:
I know of amanda and bacula. Are there others I should look at? Any
suggestions, recommendations?


I've seen BackupPC mentioned, although I haven't had a chance to try it
out yet.


http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/


HTH,

George.




bacula.

regards

Steven


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org
 
Old 04-22-2008, 10:08 AM
Ron Johnson
 
Default Which backup package?

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On 04/22/08 04:24, George Borisov wrote:
> Dennis G. Wicks wrote:
>> I know of amanda and bacula. Are there others I should look at? Any
>> suggestions, recommendations?
>
> I've seen BackupPC mentioned, although I haven't had a chance to try it
> out yet.
>
> http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/

*Every* time I see that app's name, I think, "But I don't have a
PowerPC..."

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA

We want... a Shrubbery!!
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFIDbkyS9HxQb37XmcRAkctAJ9i0XO0p0W7b2kMRO8RpG TSV7H9EwCgrNIc
ENcZcQ75mEChwpeKpS3wpFc=
=LoS8
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org
 
Old 04-22-2008, 02:49 PM
Brian McKee
 
Default Which backup package?

On 21-Apr-08, at 7:17 PM, Dennis G. Wicks wrote:


It is time that I started getting serious about backing up my
systems. I have nine systems on my network, one will be used just
for backup & restore (Debian/lenny)


I know of amanda and bacula. Are there others I should look at? Any
suggestions, recommendations?




If they are all linux boxes, and you aren't hung up on backing up to
tape, I like rsnapshot <http://www.rsnapshot.org/>


It uses just perl, rsync and hard links. Works well for small setups
because the backups aren't munged or filed or tar'd up - restore is
just a matter of moving files back. Backing up to disk makes for
easy access, and you can back that up to an external drive or over
the internet for offsite copies.


That in combination with mondorescue (mentioned elsewhere in this
thread) for bare metal recovery has served me well. (lots of lightly
used linux desktops in various locations)


Doesn't work with Windows or Mac very well though...

Brian
 
Old 04-22-2008, 08:45 PM
Peter Teunissen
 
Default Which backup package?

On 22-apr-2008, at 1:17, Dennis G. Wicks wrote:

Greetings;

It is time that I started getting serious about backing up my
systems. I have nine systems on my network, one will be used just
for backup & restore (Debian/lenny)


I know of amanda and bacula. Are there others I should look at? Any
suggestions, recommendations?




I'm in a similar situation and I'm very happy with my initial results
using rdiff-backup. It's simple and efficient if you'll be making
backups to disk. It can do push as well as pull backups and do ssh if
needed. I'm setting it up to do daily incremental backups and will do
complete backups form the 'current' rdiffbackup directory to tape. It
might even work with rsync.net, haven't had the time to test that yet
though.



Peter


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org
 

Thread Tools




All times are GMT. The time now is 10:36 PM.

VBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO ©2007, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright 2007 - 2008, www.linux-archive.org