Tony van der Hoff <email@example.com> writes:
> On 12/09/12 02:01, lee wrote:
>> Tom Rausner <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes:
>>> Generally I would agree and I was looking at MSI and ASUS to start with.
>>> I just happened to clap my eyes on this one "by accident" -and liked it.
>> Get an MSI board if you can. Asus sucks and Gigabyte is the worst crap
>> you can get. I don't have any experience with Asrock, though.
> I read your 'installation' post, and thought "this guy talks sense",
> so this comes as a severe let-down.
> I've never had a problem with ASUS boards. YMMV, but let's see some
> justification for your rubbishing ASUS and Gigabyte.
Sigh, I was expecting that someone would ask. I've had an Asus board
(because the specifications looked better than those for the comparable
one from MSI) with a fan on it which made a lot of noise, and it was
impossible to update the BIOS because they required you to have windoze
installed for that, which of course I don't have. Their support is
non-existent. Other than that, they aren't the worst you can get, and
because of my experience I recommend to stay away from them.
Gigabyte is a long story. I've seen a couple Gigabyte boards at work
and all of them had issues, one being dead after a few days, another one
never even worked. Then later I made the mistake to get one myself
because I couldn't get any other. That board wasn't able to detect the
hard disks when AHCI was enabled and wasn't very stable with all kinds
of weird problems. Their support was totally clueless and unwilling to
help. They had even something in the BIOS that would try to reserve
some space on an arbitrary hard disk and write data to it, so the BIOS
might just overwrite whatever you have on that disk. They called it a
feature, and you couldn't turn it off. The disks that the board was
unable to detect work fine with MSI boards, I'm still using them.
With MSI bords, I've made good experiences. I even used them to build
servers at work and they worked flawless over the years. I've had one
broken at home after IIRC almost two years (still under warranty), and
that was probably my fault when I made a mistake when installing a huge
CPU cooler. It didn't show CPU temperatures in the BIOS anymore right
after that and sometimes wouldn't start when switched on until more than
half a year or so later it finally didn't start at all when switched
on. I replaced it with the one I have now, also MSI. It was cheap one
and it works great, even making me think that the more expensive boards
with more features suffer from their complexity. The mic input of the
on-board sound card is dead ever since audacious did something to it ---
after warning me, so it's also more my or audacious' fault than one of
I don't need justification ... It's only my experience, and when I make
good experiences with something from a particular manufacturer, I tend
very much to buy from them again. When I make bad experiences with
something from a manufacturer, I tend very much /not/ to buy from them
again. My recommendations are accordingly. I really don't like
hardware trouble. You end up buying twice and wasting a lot of time and
money. Of course, YMMV ...
Does that make sense to you?
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