hardware monitoring at the most basic level …
On Wed 22 Aug 2012 at 15:18:31 -0400, Albretch Mueller wrote:
> How do you get periodic snapshots of your running hardware? I don't usually bother, but a reboot and a glance at dmesg can be enough. > My box started to shutdown by itself and I doubt it is related to > overheating (in a random and plain physical way) so I changed it for > another one because I didn’t have time for troubleshooting/fixing at > this moment but then the same thing started to happen to the other box Have you got time now? Or will you move on to a third machine? > What I notice is that for no obvious apparent reason the CPU taxes to > the max and the box starts revving wildly Is overheating complelely ruled out? > I use different live CDs based on linux debian and I am very careful > in order to avoid the regular bs out there bs? > I would like to periodically test the underlying hardware as low as > possible to the bare metal, because if something is messing with your > OS it will be harder for you to notice anything Nothing messes with Debian. > Any best practices and tips you would share? Install Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120822203431.GF5764@desktop |
hardware monitoring at the most basic level …
>> How do you get periodic snapshots of your running hardware?
>I don't usually bother, but a reboot and a glance at dmesg can be enough. Sometimes they aren't, at least in my case most times they aren't ;-) >> My box started to shutdown by itself and I doubt it is related to >> overheating (in a random and plain physical way) so I changed it for >> another one because I didn’t have time for troubleshooting/fixing at >> this moment but then the same thing started to happen to the other box >Have you got time now? Or will you move on to a third machine? This is the third machine that just dies -exactly the same- in less than two weeks. All of a sudden they stop booting up. I can not entertain the illusion of moving on to a new box, because I may have to spend money on a server + other matters ... So I must have time/make sense instead of dealing with it with "money" ;-) >> What I notice is that for no obvious apparent reason the CPU taxes to >> the max and the box starts revving wildly >Is overheating complelely ruled out? Well, the "physics" of it is easy. I: 1) disconnected the machine from the Internet 2) took apart the CPU/heat sink to clean it thoroughly (scrubbed off the old and glued them together with new thermal paste) 3) checked the mobo for anything abnormal, resetting the memory modules, ... 4) reset the CMOS (I had to because I was getting 5-beep CPU/memory errors, even though everything seemed to be fine) the box then booted nicely (almost totally silently) 5) I ran then memtest for hours (6 passes) and no memory errors were detected whatsoever 6) SMART says disks are just fine and I don't hear any abnormal noises ... but then once you connect your box to the Internet you start "having problems" even if you use a live CD and do not mount any drives while connected to the Internet >> I use different live CDs based on linux debian and I am very careful >> in order to avoid the regular bs out there >bs? with "regular bs" I meant script kiddies and such. I even run my browser without javascript enabled, nor do I waste my time on "social networking" places ... Basically all I do is my own research and coding, but then I have constant arguments with my ISP because my connection to the Internet is very slow or, like right now, I have been without access to the Internet (my own I pay for) for 3 weeks!!! and also the same thing "happens" with my telephone line, when I go to use public Internet access in public libraries ... ;-) I show to my ISP tcpdump logs which timing and protocol negotiation, which unless you are God you can't possibly make up, as evidence that it is not a hw or sw problem on my side ... but they start giving you sh!t and things don't get solved >> I would like to periodically test the underlying hardware as low as >> possible to the bare metal, because if something is messing with your >> OS it will be harder for you to notice anything >Nothing messes with Debian. Nothing, really? Well, the US has quietly become a police state and they are monitoring pretty much everyone's movement (from a technical point of view almost literally (most people don't know their cell phones are tracking their geo locations with centimetric precision, what they talk about, with whom ... and that what they talk/write about is being staged in all encompassing snitching corpora real time ...)) Now if they think you need to get "normed" because you are saying something they don't like, even if written as a poem, http://hsymbolicus.wordpress.com/category/poems/ (lies ...) mapping and tracking you is not enough (let alone knowing you are not some criminal by any standard), they create a virtual prison around you and start harassing you non-stop, without charges or anything (and that includes sending letters to employers telling them you are some bad nigger that has been black listed by the FBI). A la Orson Wells 1984 you are not complying with newstalk so you need to get "normed" ;-) ... It is not enough for them controlling/dumbing down the masses with media cr@p. They want to actually play God and control everything down to eveyone of us on an individual level ... Now, how does all that cr@p relate to debian? I have been thinking about developing a version of Debian live that would make very easy for people to monitor on their own and document when their telephones are being messed with, when the police is creating noises in your apartment (including nasty high frequency ones based on magnetic lobes) to sleep deprive you (which is a form of torture) ... it is a "Quis-custodiet-ipsos-custodes?" thing >> Any best practices and tips you would share? >Install Debian. In the version of Debian live I am fancying about, it would, as part of booting, make sure that the BIOS hasn't been changed, it would boot and configure itself to certain hardware profiles only (of machines you have decided, otherwise it would warn you ...), it would have some internal, vertical monitoring of processes with timing so that stack sequences are kept in some Bayesian network, it would only mount devices you own ... the reason why I talk about this here (even though I know you may find quite off-topic all of this and may feel foreign to "political" issue (I do, too! but still ...)) is because that should be a cultured development, not just something someone does for him/herself thanks lbrtcthx -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? 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hardware monitoring at the most basic level …
OK, I got inquisitor 3.1beta2 and I will try it on my boxes, but
honestly I think there has been quite of "paradigm shift" and I couldn't see how it covers the kinds of "use cases" (let's call it that ;-)) that I mentioned. BTW, have you thought of including DTrace? The assumptions that initially justified, say, knoppix' functional niche have changed nowadays. How could you protect yourself (at least being conscious of it to the point of being able to easily gauge/sense/prove it to some extent and manage those kinds of (as NYPD Commissioner Raymond Kelly calls them)) "lawful efforts" without going mad? (which is what they want) How could you, for example, protect yourself from a black bag job inside your apartment to reset the BIOS in your boxes and routers to then remotely own them or not even that but doing it through your ISP? (which in the US, like any other business, must all submit to snitching) Of course, my work-hose box is not connected to the Internet at all but I was using a KVM box to just share the monitor and "things" started happening real soon and the KVM box started to malfunction ... there is not a box I have own that I remember that hasn't had sound card problems ... Once I watched a youtube feed in which some dude showed how you can monitor "noise" in your telephone lines using Linux ... those are the kinds of things I have in mind Say you go to a public library and each time you try to unsuccessfully connect to the Internet for more than one minute you get kicked off, then you switch to WEP hacking spoofing your MAC address as a way to prove that "it is about you". There are provisions in the law that address cases in which the only way you have to prove a greater wrong is doing something "illegal" as long as there is no criminal intention and no harmful consequences whatsoever and you obviously and visibly do it to prove your point in front of their own clerks, who have told me "support" would not take their calls if other people are online just fine ... >> A la Orson Wells 1984 > You mean George Orwell I actually did lbrtchx -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org Archive: CAFakBwhw-Lwu9boprwvC1GZjQTWZ2JU_X1isf16pcgJVcWu-Sw@mail.gmail.com">http://lists.debian.org/CAFakBwhw-Lwu9boprwvC1GZjQTWZ2JU_X1isf16pcgJVcWu-Sw@mail.gmail.com |
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