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Old 08-05-2012, 08:59 AM
John Kapnogiannis
 
Default Problems with open source ati driver

Hello. I own a dell studio 1555 laptop with an ATI Mobility Radeon HD
4570 (RV710) gpu and I have problems configuring it. I recently found
out that support has been dropped from fglrx and that the only
solution for me is the open source radeon driver. Here's my story:

I edited the xorg.conf file and replaced "fglrx" with "radeon". Except
from that there are no more options added to the segment "Device". I
istalled all the packages necessary for non-free firmware etc. I use
an up-to-date testing installation with KDE. KDM never comes up. I
just get a console where i type my login credentials and type "startx"
in order to start x server. KDE gets loaded with 3d effects on after
an upgrade in some acpi packages. Prior to that upgrade 3d effects
failed to load.

My problem on all this is that after a while my laptop starts to gain
high temperature leading to a complete cut of power. Suppose this is a
failsafe method for it to avoid permanent damage. I have searched but
I have found no solution. Any help?

Please cc me cause I am not currently registered to this mailing list.

Thank you very much


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Old 08-05-2012, 09:12 AM
Gary Dale
 
Default Problems with open source ati driver

On 05/08/12 04:59 AM, John Kapnogiannis wrote:

Hello. I own a dell studio 1555 laptop with an ATI Mobility Radeon HD
4570 (RV710) gpu and I have problems configuring it. I recently found
out that support has been dropped from fglrx and that the only
solution for me is the open source radeon driver. Here's my story:

I edited the xorg.conf file and replaced "fglrx" with "radeon". Except
from that there are no more options added to the segment "Device". I
istalled all the packages necessary for non-free firmware etc. I use
an up-to-date testing installation with KDE. KDM never comes up. I
just get a console where i type my login credentials and type "startx"
in order to start x server. KDE gets loaded with 3d effects on after
an upgrade in some acpi packages. Prior to that upgrade 3d effects
failed to load.

My problem on all this is that after a while my laptop starts to gain
high temperature leading to a complete cut of power. Suppose this is a
failsafe method for it to avoid permanent damage. I have searched but
I have found no solution. Any help?

Please cc me cause I am not currently registered to this mailing list.

Thank you very much


Have you tried it without using an xorg.conf? Also, do you have the
radeon kernel module loaded?



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Old 08-05-2012, 09:46 AM
John Kapnogiannis
 
Default Problems with open source ati driver

On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Gary Dale <garydale@rogers.com> wrote:
> On 05/08/12 04:59 AM, John Kapnogiannis wrote:
>>
>> Hello. I own a dell studio 1555 laptop with an ATI Mobility Radeon HD
>> 4570 (RV710) gpu and I have problems configuring it. I recently found
>> out that support has been dropped from fglrx and that the only
>> solution for me is the open source radeon driver. Here's my story:
>>
>> I edited the xorg.conf file and replaced "fglrx" with "radeon". Except
>> from that there are no more options added to the segment "Device". I
>> istalled all the packages necessary for non-free firmware etc. I use
>> an up-to-date testing installation with KDE. KDM never comes up. I
>> just get a console where i type my login credentials and type "startx"
>> in order to start x server. KDE gets loaded with 3d effects on after
>> an upgrade in some acpi packages. Prior to that upgrade 3d effects
>> failed to load.
>>
>> My problem on all this is that after a while my laptop starts to gain
>> high temperature leading to a complete cut of power. Suppose this is a
>> failsafe method for it to avoid permanent damage. I have searched but
>> I have found no solution. Any help?
>>
>> Please cc me cause I am not currently registered to this mailing list.
>>
>> Thank you very much
>
>
> Have you tried it without using an xorg.conf? Also, do you have the radeon
> kernel module loaded?

Yes I have tried deleting the xorg.conf but the results are the same.
I think KMS is enabled. I found that out following a guide in debian
wiki.


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Old 08-05-2012, 10:03 AM
Adrian Fita
 
Default Problems with open source ati driver

On 05/08/12 11:59, John Kapnogiannis wrote:

[...]

> My problem on all this is that after a while my laptop starts to gain
> high temperature leading to a complete cut of power. Suppose this is a
> failsafe method for it to avoid permanent damage. I have searched but
> I have found no solution. Any help?

This is an old issue with the open source xorg radeon driver. See
here[1] a bug report.

[1]: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36438

The best solution that I found was to downgrade to xorg 1.11 and hold
the packages from upgrading so I can use the fglrx driver. Some
instructions on how to do the downgrade[2].

[2]: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/07/msg00647.html

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Old 08-05-2012, 10:36 AM
John Kapnogiannis
 
Default Problems with open source ati driver

On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Adrian Fita <adrian.fita@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 05/08/12 11:59, John Kapnogiannis wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> My problem on all this is that after a while my laptop starts to gain
>> high temperature leading to a complete cut of power. Suppose this is a
>> failsafe method for it to avoid permanent damage. I have searched but
>> I have found no solution. Any help?
>
> This is an old issue with the open source xorg radeon driver. See
> here[1] a bug report.
>
> [1]: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36438
>
> The best solution that I found was to downgrade to xorg 1.11 and hold
> the packages from upgrading so I can use the fglrx driver. Some
> instructions on how to do the downgrade[2].
>
> [2]: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/07/msg00647.html
>
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I think downgrading the xorg is not a solution. Sometime you will have
to upgrade. I will try out the setting the power managment profile to
low and report back. Thanks


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Old 08-05-2012, 05:10 PM
Adrian Fita
 
Default Problems with open source ati driver

On 05/08/12 15:42, Petr Voralek wrote:
> Hello!
>
> On 08/05/2012 12:10 PM, *Adrian Fita* wrote, and I quote (in part):
>
>> The best solution that I found was to downgrade to xorg 1.11 and hold
>> the packages from upgrading so I can use the fglrx driver. Some
>> instructions on how to do the downgrade[2].
>
> Another option is to use fglrx-legacy (packages are now in the
> experimental repository) together with the current version of xorg, as I
> do it on my TP W500 (but this solution is probably only suitable for
> mixed (testing/unstable+experimental, or unstable+experimental) systems)...
>
> EDIT: I apologize for the private message -- news server did not allow
> me write to linux.debian.user, though I are logged into the conference
> via http://lists.bofh.it/options/linux-gate

Nice. Thanks for letting me know. I'll wait for them to enter testing
and then I'll make the change to the latest xorg. Until then I'm holding
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:13 PM
Adrian Fita
 
Default Problems with open source ati driver

On 05/08/12 18:39, John Kapnogiannis wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Kapnogiannis <smokejohn@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Adrian Fita <adrian.fita@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 05/08/12 11:59, John Kapnogiannis wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> My problem on all this is that after a while my laptop starts to gain
>>>> high temperature leading to a complete cut of power. Suppose this is a
>>>> failsafe method for it to avoid permanent damage. I have searched but
>>>> I have found no solution. Any help?
>>>
>>> This is an old issue with the open source xorg radeon driver. See
>>> here[1] a bug report.
>>>
>>> [1]: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36438
>>>
>>> The best solution that I found was to downgrade to xorg 1.11 and hold
>>> the packages from upgrading so I can use the fglrx driver. Some
>>> instructions on how to do the downgrade[2].
>>>
>>> [2]: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/07/msg00647.html
>>>
>>> --
>>> Adrian Fita
>>
>> I think downgrading the xorg is not a solution. Sometime you will have
>> to upgrade. I will try out the setting the power managment profile to
>> low and report back. Thanks
>
> The low profile seems to keep the laptop on a temperature that it
> doesnt need to shut off.
> It is still hot though :P Now the only thing that I must fix is KDM not loading

Yes, I also tried the low power profile and while it helped to bring the
temperature down, it wasn't low enough to cause the fan to stop spinning
like with the fglrx proprietary driver, so I decided to keep the old
fglrx driver for now.

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