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Old 07-22-2012, 05:49 PM
Bret Busby
 
Default Debian 5 - was Query abouut root account

On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Denis Witt wrote:




On 16.07.2012 10:01, Bret Busby wrote:


I have forgotten the root password, and have not logged into root on
that computer, or updated the system, for about a year, I think.


Do you have physical access to this machine? Or can you get someone to boot
it with a live-CD?


If so you can boot from the live-CD, chroot into the system on the disk and
change the root passwd.


Bye.




One of the reasons that I wanted to be able to log in as root, is to
perform an update on that system.


The system is running Firestarter on Debian 5.

However, another problem has arisen, that indicates that that system
apparently cannot be updated, and has to stay as it is, without having
been updated for about a year or so, which is unfortunate for a
firewall computer.


I have a Samsung MFP printer thing; a CLX-3185FW, and I had been able to
use it with a Debian 5 system that I had been using. Then, the Debian 5
system went awry (a separate system from the firewall system), and
became apparently unusable.


So, I installed Debian 6 on another computer (this computer), and have
been using that on this system, for the past few or several months.


But I was unable to install the drivers for the printer, on the Debian 6
workstation.


I have now been advised by Samsung, that the CLX-3185FW works with
Debian 3.x through 5.x, but does not work with Debian.


("Why is this so?"; that a peripheral device that worked with Debian 3.x
through 5.x, now does not work with Debian 6? Has Debian 6 been made
incompatible with some hardware that ran (relatively) okay with Debian
3.x through 5.x?)


So, I today tried to instal Debian 5 on my HP NX5000 laptop, which is
one of the systems on which I have previously (relatively) successfully
run Debian 5, in the past (until the HDD crashed on that computer, and
got replaced, so I installed Debian 6 on it).


But, when it came to the APT part of the setup in the installation
process, I could not successfully configure the mirror setting.


In looking at the Debian web site, I found, and tried,
http://archive.kernel.org/debian-archive, as one of the many mirrors
that I tried.


That did not work.

No mirror worked.

So, I thought that I would try to find the optical disks (CD's or DVD's)
ISO images, download them, and just instal it from the ISO images.


But, I could not find any ISO images for Debian 5.

The Debian website stated that, when Debian 6 was released; 06 February
2012, updates for Debian 5 ceased, and Debian 5 got shifted and
archived.


But, I can not find any archived ISO images for Debian 5, so I can not
instal Debian 5, and thus, I can no longer use the printer/scanner, that
I was able to use with Debian 5. Unless I switch to MS Windows...


Are ISO images available on the Debian web site, or in its repositories,
for Debian 5?


I had to abort the installation, as it would not progress any further,
and, would not even "install a basic system", so, I had to abort the
installation, and that appears to have harmed to Debian 6 installation
on the HP NX 500, so I will probably now have to re-instal Debian 6 (on
booting Debian 6, I got "fsck failed with error 8 - login as root or
press <CTRL-D> to continue").


But, if Debian 5 is still available, both in the ISO images, so as to
allow installation, and, in repositories, so that existing Debian 5
systems can be updated to at least the February 2012 update state, then
I would be able to use the Samsung CLX-3185FW, for more than just a
photocopier, and, I would be able to be a bit more confident of the
security of the firwewall that appartently can not be updated.


I note that Firestarter has apparently not been maintained for a few
years, so, whilst it apparently is available as an installable package
within the Debian 6 set of packages, there would probably not be much
advantage in upgrading the firewall to Debian 6, due to Firestarter for
Debian 6, being probably not more updated than the Firesrater on Debian
5.


And, other firewall software, appears to be too difficult for me to deal
with, so I am stuck with Firestarter.


So, advice as to how I can obtain Debian 5 ISO image downloads, and, how
I can perform an update (what URL's I need for the /etc/apt/sources.list
file) on the Debian 5 firewall, if these can be achieved, would be good.


Thank you in anticipation.

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Old 07-22-2012, 06:08 PM
Andrei POPESCU
 
Default Debian 5 - was Query abouut root account

On Lu, 23 iul 12, 01:49:21, Bret Busby wrote:
>
> I have a Samsung MFP printer thing; a CLX-3185FW, and I had been
> able to use it with a Debian 5 system that I had been using. Then,
> the Debian 5 system went awry (a separate system from the firewall
> system), and became apparently unusable.
>
> So, I installed Debian 6 on another computer (this computer), and
> have been using that on this system, for the past few or several
> months.
>
> But I was unable to install the drivers for the printer, on the
> Debian 6 workstation.

Try splix.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:33 AM
Keith McKenzie
 
Default Debian 5 - was Query abouut root account

Bret Busby wrote:
>
> I have a Samsung MFP printer thing; a CLX-3185FW, and I had been
> able to use it with a Debian 5 system that I had been using. Then,
> the Debian 5 system went awry (a separate system from the firewall
> system), and became apparently unusable.
>
> So, I installed Debian 6 on another computer (this computer), and
> have been using that on this system, for the past few or several
> months.
>
> But I was unable to install the drivers for the printer, on the
> Debian 6 workstation.

Maybe this is what you want (?)

http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian-5.0/main/installer-i386/20090123lenny10/images/cdrom/

HTH
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:44 AM
Bret Busby
 
Default Debian 5 - was Query abouut root account

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Keith McKenzie wrote:



Bret Busby wrote:


I have a Samsung MFP printer thing; a CLX-3185FW, and I had been
able to use it with a Debian 5 system that I had been using. Then,
the Debian 5 system went awry (a separate system from the firewall
system), and became apparently unusable.

So, I installed Debian 6 on another computer (this computer), and
have been using that on this system, for the past few or several
months.

But I was unable to install the drivers for the printer, on the
Debian 6 workstation.


Maybe this is what you want (?)

http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian-5.0/main/installer-i386/20090123lenny10/images/cdrom/

HTH
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That is, I think, one of the places that I looked.

But, with what is there, being

"
Index of
/debian/dists/Debian-5.0/main/installer-i386/20090123lenny10/images/cdrom
Name Last modified Size Description


Parent Directory -
debian-cd_info.tar.gz 09-Mar-2012 09:08 319K
gtk/ 10-Mar-2012 14:31 -
initrd.gz 09-Mar-2012 09:08 4.3M
vmlinuz 09-Mar-2012 09:14 1.4M


Apache Server at archive.debian.org Port 80
"

and the gtk directory showing

"
Index of
/debian/dists/Debian-5.0/main/installer-i386/20090123lenny10/images/cdrom/gtk
Name Last modified Size


Parent Directory -
debian-cd_info.tar.gz 09-Mar-2012 09:08 318K
initrd.gz 09-Mar-2012 09:08 12M
vmlinuz 09-Mar-2012 09:14 1.4M


Apache Server at archive.debian.org Port 80
"

there appears to be nothing like an ISO image there.

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Old 07-23-2012, 09:27 AM
Keith McKenzie
 
Default Debian 5 - was Query abouut root account

.
>
>
> Maybe this is what you want (?)
>
> http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian-5.0/main/installer-i386/20090123lenny10/images/cdrom/
>
> HTH
> --


That is, I think, one of the places that I looked.

But, with what is there, being

"
Index of /debian/dists/Debian-5.0/main/installer-i386/20090123lenny10/images/cdrom
Name Last modified Size Description

Parent Directory -
debian-cd_info.tar.gz 09-Mar-2012 09:08 319K
gtk/ 10-Mar-2012 14:31 -
initrd.gz 09-Mar-2012 09:08 4.3M
vmlinuz 09-Mar-2012 09:14 1.4M



there appears to be nothing like an ISO image there.

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I should have looked deeper, sorry, how about,

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/5.0.3/i386/iso-cd/

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Old 07-23-2012, 01:50 PM
Lisi
 
Default Debian 5 - was Query abouut root account

On Sunday 22 July 2012 19:08:46 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > But I was unable to install the drivers for the printer, on the
> > Debian 6 workstation.
>
> Try splix.

+1

Lisi


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Old 07-23-2012, 02:39 PM
Mika Suomalainen
 
Default Debian 5 - was Query abouut root account

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On 22.07.2012 20:49, Bret Busby wrote:
> However, another problem has arisen, that indicates that that
> system apparently cannot be updated, and has to stay as it is,
> without having been updated for about a year or so, which is
> unfortunate for a firewall computer.

Try putting the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list on that Debian 5.

deb http://http.debian.net/debian-archive/debian lenny
deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian-archive/debian lenny

Or in apt configuration

http://http.debian.net/debian-archive/debian lenny

should work.

NOTE: Debian 5 doesn't receive any official (security) updates.

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Old 07-23-2012, 04:47 PM
Brian
 
Default Debian 5 - was Query abouut root account

On Mon 23 Jul 2012 at 17:39:23 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

> On 22.07.2012 20:49, Bret Busby wrote:
> > However, another problem has arisen, that indicates that that
> > system apparently cannot be updated, and has to stay as it is,
> > without having been updated for about a year or so, which is
> > unfortunate for a firewall computer.
>
> Try putting the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list on that Debian 5.
>
> deb http://http.debian.net/debian-archive/debian lenny
> deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian-archive/debian lenny
>
> Or in apt configuration
>
> http://http.debian.net/debian-archive/debian lenny
>
> should work.

Neither will work as none of the mirrors used by http.debian.net has the
Lenny achive on it.


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Old 07-23-2012, 05:14 PM
Camaleón
 
Default Debian 5 - was Query abouut root account

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:47:45 +0100, Brian wrote:

> On Mon 23 Jul 2012 at 17:39:23 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

>> Try putting the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list on that Debian
>> 5.
>>
>> deb http://http.debian.net/debian-archive/debian lenny deb-src
>> http://http.debian.net/debian-archive/debian lenny
>>
>> Or in apt configuration
>>
>> http://http.debian.net/debian-archive/debian lenny
>>
>> should work.
>
> Neither will work as none of the mirrors used by http.debian.net has the
> Lenny achive on it.

Mmm... sure? ;-)

debian.net ! debian.org

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Old 07-23-2012, 05:20 PM
Bret Busby
 
Default Debian 5 - was Query abouut root account

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Brian wrote:


Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 00:47:45
From: Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Reply-To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian 5 - was Re: Query abouut root account
Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:48:03 +0000 (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On Mon 23 Jul 2012 at 17:39:23 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:


On 22.07.2012 20:49, Bret Busby wrote:

However, another problem has arisen, that indicates that that
system apparently cannot be updated, and has to stay as it is,
without having been updated for about a year or so, which is
unfortunate for a firewall computer.


Try putting the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list on that Debian 5.

deb http://http.debian.net/debian-archive/debian lenny
deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian-archive/debian lenny

Or in apt configuration

http://http.debian.net/debian-archive/debian lenny

should work.


Neither will work as none of the mirrors used by http.debian.net has the
Lenny achive on it.




And I had just tried it, and got the same error message as with every
other mirror that I had tried; "Bad Archive Mirror".


I think that I really need access to the ISO images.

One thing that I do not understand; in February, a message was
broadcast, stating that Debian 5.0.10 had just been realeased, and then,
all Debian 5 repositories appear to have been disappeared, as soon as
Debian 5.0.10 was released.


It seems strange (to me), that notification of an update release is
broadcast, and then all repositories of that version, are disappeared at
the same time as that release.


Do the ISO images for Debian 5.0.10, still exist in any official Debian
repository?


Thank you in anticipation.

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