On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 11:32:26 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón:
>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:29:19 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 15:57 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
>> >> aRts was ESD's counterpart in KDE, IIRC.
>> >>
>> >> Anyway, we deserve the price to pay (PA can be complex to setup) for
>> >> having a full-featured and advanced sound server with interesting
>> >> capabilities regardless we use all of the features or not.
>> >
>> > The sound server issue becomes more annoying with each day. Currently
>> > it's hip to use Jack with DBus support, a PITA regarding to my needs.
>> > I wonder how newbies should be able to handle all this stuff.
>>
>> For my usual setups that's not a concern but basically because I don't
>> make an advanced use of the sound facility other than watching flash
>> videos in Youtube and playing multimedia content locally with Totem or
>> Rhythmbox. Under this scenario PA causes me zero headaches.
>
> For me it doesn´t. I only use
>
> - Flash / HTML 5 (preferable) videos
> - Amarok
> - Dragon Player / Kaffeine with file or DVD playback - USB sound card
>
> with Phonon VLC.
(...)
MAybe the difference here is that I'm using GNOME and P-A was integrated
in the GNOME environment since years so maybe is more polished here.
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07-20-2012, 04:16 PM
Rob Owens
To pulse or not to pulse?
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 04:40:46AM -0400, Brad Alexander wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Raffaele Morelli
> <raffaele.morelli@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Have a try with ALSA+Jack (qjackctl gui) and use vlc phonon backend for KDE4
> > (gstreamer backend really sucks IMHO).
>
> Phonon is currently set up for vlc.
>
> > If you plan to use non-alsa compliant applications some tweaks may be needed
> > but it's worth trying.
> >
> > -- No need to remove PA, just stop it. --
>
> When I try to in the traditional way, I get:
>
> [defiant /home/storm]# /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop
> [warn] PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions ... (warning).
>
> And the process is still running:
>
> [defiant /home/storm]# ps auxww | grep pulse
> storm 4756 0.0 0.0 319820 6700 ? S<l Jul09 5:54
> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
>
This is because pulseaudio is running as your user, and not as a daemon.
See /etc/default/pulseaudio -- you probably have
PULSEAUDIO_SYSTEM_START=0
Just run 'killall pulseaudio' as your regular user.
-Rob
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07-20-2012, 05:03 PM
Martin Steigerwald
To pulse or not to pulse?
Am Freitag, 20. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón:
> On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 11:32:26 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón:
> >> On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:29:19 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 15:57 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
> >> >> aRts was ESD's counterpart in KDE, IIRC.
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyway, we deserve the price to pay (PA can be complex to setup)
> >> >> for having a full-featured and advanced sound server with
> >> >> interesting capabilities regardless we use all of the features
> >> >> or not.
> >> >
> >> > The sound server issue becomes more annoying with each day.
> >> > Currently it's hip to use Jack with DBus support, a PITA
> >> > regarding to my needs. I wonder how newbies should be able to
> >> > handle all this stuff.
> >>
> >> For my usual setups that's not a concern but basically because I
> >> don't make an advanced use of the sound facility other than
> >> watching flash videos in Youtube and playing multimedia content
> >> locally with Totem or Rhythmbox. Under this scenario PA causes me
> >> zero headaches.
> >
> > For me it doesn´t. I only use
> >
> > - Flash / HTML 5 (preferable) videos
> > - Amarok
> > - Dragon Player / Kaffeine with file or DVD playback - USB sound card
> >
> > with Phonon VLC.
>
> (...)
>
> MAybe the difference here is that I'm using GNOME and P-A was
> integrated in the GNOME environment since years so maybe is more
> polished here.
Well, could be.
At some time I might revisit PulseAudio.
As written, I had some apt-get purge and install cycles with Network
Manager but now use it on all of my laptops – but not on the workstation
at work, cause then it happened that I logon while my NFS home is not yet
mounted due to network not up yet.
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07-22-2012, 04:15 PM
Ralf Mardorf
To pulse or not to pulse?
On Sat, 2012-07-21 at 01:33 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 07:41:20AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > However, here's the instruction how to build a dummy package for Debian
> > based distros:
> > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-helpers.en.html
>
> <title>APT HOWTO (Obsolete Documentation) - Very useful helpers</title>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
equivs-control and equivs-build still work that way.
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