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Old 07-11-2012, 07:12 PM
Ralf Mardorf
 
Default How to install Debian and what media to use - Was: CD image doesn't exist for download?

OP of the original thread, please ignore this thread, I suspect the
mailing list needs to discuss what really is the easiest way for people
without knowhow, to install a Linux.

Wow, lets mix top and bottom posting and recommend all kind of hard to
use solutions, instead of explaining how to get the regular CD, to burn
it and to install Debian.

Does netinst work without issues for PPPoE on every machine?

IT'S COMMON FOR ALL MAJOR DISTROS TO HAVE AN INSTALL MEDIA THAT CAN BE
DOWNLOADED WITH EVERY COMMON BROWSER, THAT CAN BE BURNED WITH EVERY
COMMON BURNING UTILITY.

Why do you all recommend those complicated ways?

On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 14:56 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
> Stop making it complicated. She just needs to download the netinst cd
> then burn the .iso image. There is no need to get a full image file,
> whether CD or DVD, to install Linux.
>
>
> On 11/07/12 02:38 PM, Wayne Topa wrote:
> > On 07/11/2012 02:29 PM, Luiz L. Marins wrote:
> >> Kirsten,
> >>
> >> Just past and copy to prompt:
> >>
> >> wget -c
> >> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.5/i386/iso-dvd/debian-6.0.5-i386-DVD-1.iso
> >>
> >>
> > Since you are running XP now, you can get wget from
> > http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/wget.htm
> >
> > There are other sources as well. Google is your friend!
> >
> > Hope this helps
> > <
> >>
> >>
> >> Em 11-07-2012 12:36, Kirsten Milligan escreveu:
> >>> After several attempts over several years, I haven't yet had complete
> >>> success installing Linux. I'm hungry to learn, but am very poor at
> >>> computerspeak, so please be gentle.
> >>>
> >>> I'm trying again. I know, some steps would be removed from the process
> >>> if I'd buy disks, but I'd really like to master this.
> >>>
> >>> I navigated to http://atterer.org/jigdo/ from debian.org, and am
> >>> trying to follow the instructions on Atterer's page. I'm concerned
> >>> because near the top of the page is the following:
> >>>
> >>> 'This software is now in "maintenance mode", development has stopped.
> >>> Unfortunately, this means that various parts (in particular the GUI
> >>> download tool) will remain unfinished,'
> >>>
> >>> with a note above saying that the last update was on 2010-9-23. I
> >>> wouldn't think debian.org would send me to the page, if the page were
> >>> no longer useful, so I've been plowing ahead.
> >>>
> >>> I have downloaded jigdo-lite
> >>> (http://atterer.org/sites/atterer/files/2009-08/jigdo/jigdo-win-0.7.2.zip)
> >>>
> >>> (I'm using Windows XP), and I believe I've successfully got a command
> >>> line interface. (I have a black window with a bunch of text that has
> >>> proliferated with previous unsuccessful attempts (due to typos and the
> >>> like) to access Debian's 6.0.5 CD-1 image.) At the jigdo prompt, I
> >>> have typed
> >>> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.5/i386/jigdo-cd/debian-6.0.5-i386-CD-1.jigdo,
> >>>
> >>> which link location I copied from the list at
> >>> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.5/i386/jigdo-cd/.
> >>>
> >>> What seem most pertinent to me, of the things jigdo is telling me, are
> >>> the parts that say, "301 Moved Permanently," followed by a URL, then a
> >>> "Resolving," followed by a "Connecting," and a "connected," then "404
> >>> Not Found," and "File 'debian-6.0.5-i386-CD-1.jigdo' does not exist!"
> >>>
> >>> I decided to return to the jigdo window, before sending this, to try
> >>> again, this time with the CD-1 template; maybe I'd garner more
> >>> information about my trouble that way. Now I'm even more confused,
> >>> because I can't get a jidgo prompt. There's just a blinking cursor at
> >>> the left edge, with stuff above that looks like what I've been
> >>> entering, but which seems to bleed off the right edge, though there is
> >>> no scroll bar at the bottom of the window, and though I cannot expand
> >>> the window horizontally (double-headed arrow appears, but doesn't
> >>> work). Nothing I type makes a difference to the window; the cursor
> >>> just keeps blinking. I tried making the window full-page, but it looks
> >>> just the same, only bigger.
> >>>
> >>> Is it clear, from what I've described, what I've done to hang up
> >>> jigdo, and why I can't access the CD image for download? Can anyone
> >>> help me make this work?
> >>>
> >>> Specifically, is there a way to get back to a jigdo prompt, other than
> >>> uninstalling and reinstalling jidgo? And is that CD image really
> >>> available for download? And, if so, what do I need to do differently
> >>> in order to download it?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks very much for your attention.
> >>>
> >>> Kirsten
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>




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Old 07-11-2012, 07:43 PM
Keith McKenzie
 
Default How to install Debian and what media to use - Was: CD image doesn't exist for download?

On 11 July 2012 20:12, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> wrote:

OP of the original thread, please ignore this thread, I suspect the

mailing list needs to discuss what really is the easiest way for people

without knowhow, to install a Linux.



Why do you all recommend those complicated ways?






Most likely because, for some unknown reason, the OP was trying to download via jigdo, which is not the easiest way for someone who doesn't know Linux yet.

That is why I suggested to download a (standard) CD-1, & install from that.


Once they have a working Linux system, then is the time to start asking the questions to learn about it.
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