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Old 06-28-2012, 03:02 PM
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Default Re (2): Apparent disagreement between df and cp.

On 28/06/12 16:18, peasthope@shaw.ca wrote:

From: Berni Elbourn<berni421@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 08:32:29 +0100

Are there too many files in target folder?


197 files here whereas Wikipedia mentions 65,460 files for "32 KB" clusters.

From: Chris Davies<chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 08:47:21 +0100

What is the output of "mount | grep sdd1" ...


peter@dalton:~$ mount | grep sdd1
/dev/sdd1 on /media/4345-A417 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000
,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showex ec,flush)


... and also "df -i /dev/sdd1"?


peter@dalton:~$ df -i /dev/sdd1
Filesystem Inodes IUsed IFree IUse% Mounted on
/dev/sdd1 0 0 0 - /media/4345-A417

That can't be right.


The remedy is to move files to a subdirectory.


Seems the problem is deeper such as a bug in the software
which makes the filesystem. Any further ideas before I go
off to study FAT filesystems?

Thanks everyone, ... P.


Ok, I've just tested this. It is a FAT filesystem limitation.

On FAT12 (and FAT16, iirc) there is a limit of 512 files in the root
directory. Other directories don't have this limit.


Ok, you don't have 512 files, *but* you're using it as VFAT, which uses
extra directory entries to store additional entries (long filenames etc)
for each file, thus reducing the number of files that can be stored.


(Incidentally, FAT file systems don't use inodes as such, so none will
show).


I created a filesystem the same size as yours with mkfs.vfat, then did a
simple:


for i in $(seq 1 255);do touch Longfilename$i;done

After 173 files had been written, I got:

touch: cannot touch `Longfilename174': No space left on device

and

dom@oz:/mnt$ df -k .
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/loop0 498368 0 498368 0% /mnt

(I used a file to test, not a physical drive as I didn't have one to hand).

Try creating a subdirectory on that drive and storing the files in there
instead.


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Old 06-28-2012, 03:18 PM
 
Default Re (2): Apparent disagreement between df and cp.

From: Berni Elbourn <berni421@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 08:32:29 +0100
> Are there too many files in target folder?

197 files here whereas Wikipedia mentions 65,460 files for "32 KB" clusters.

From: Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 08:47:21 +0100
> What is the output of "mount | grep sdd1" ...

peter@dalton:~$ mount | grep sdd1
/dev/sdd1 on /media/4345-A417 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000
,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showex ec,flush)

> ... and also "df -i /dev/sdd1"?

peter@dalton:~$ df -i /dev/sdd1
Filesystem Inodes IUsed IFree IUse% Mounted on
/dev/sdd1 0 0 0 - /media/4345-A417

That can't be right.

> The remedy is to move files to a subdirectory.

Seems the problem is deeper such as a bug in the software
which makes the filesystem. Any further ideas before I go
off to study FAT filesystems?

Thanks everyone, ... P.


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