> On Fri 22 Jun 2012 at 16:11:49 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:48:23 +0200, Paul Seyfert wrote:
>>
>> > - symbol.ttf which comes with cernroot is behaving strangely
>> > using it for displaying causes wrong displaying of non embedded
>> > greek letters.
>>
>> The behaviour you get is similar to mine, despite in my case the source
>> of the symbol font was different than yours.
>
> I wonder whether it is. His has "Copyright URW Software, Copyright 1997
> by URW" in the file.
What file? You mean the .ttf font? :-?
When I open "symbol.ttf" from MC I see "The Monotype Corporation plc/Time
Solutions Inc. 1990-1992. All Rights ReservedSymbolRegular... blah, blah"
> This font is menace on a Debian system. As both of you have found out
> it needs to be put somewhere where fontconfig does not look. Examining
> it with fontforge reveals the unicode values for the glyphs are
> incorrect. Not that the GPL version of the same font in wine has
> anything to boast about - it too suffers from an identical defect.
Well, as I already explained, the same TrueType font works well in Wheezy
so to my eyes is not the font that is a menace but a bug located
elsewhere in both Squeeze and Lenny :-)
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06-22-2012, 05:46 PM
Paul Seyfert
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Hi,
>
> You deleted all the fonts under "/usr/share/fonts/" path? :-?
no, I did as was suggested by brian (keep the X fonts and gsfonts)
>
> - ttf files not only help displaying fonts, they can also break it.
>
> This is not because of TTF but a bug coming from a different place (in
> wheezy the problem is not present even using symbol.ttf).
>
strange...
cheers,
Paul
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06-22-2012, 06:58 PM
Brian
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On Fri 22 Jun 2012 at 17:42:26 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 18:25:55 +0100, Brian wrote:
>
> > On Fri 22 Jun 2012 at 16:11:49 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:48:23 +0200, Paul Seyfert wrote:
> >>
> >> > - symbol.ttf which comes with cernroot is behaving strangely
> >> > using it for displaying causes wrong displaying of non embedded
> >> > greek letters.
> >>
> >> The behaviour you get is similar to mine, despite in my case the source
> >> of the symbol font was different than yours.
> >
> > I wonder whether it is. His has "Copyright URW Software, Copyright 1997
> > by URW" in the file.
>
> What file? You mean the .ttf font? :-?
Of course.
> When I open "symbol.ttf" from MC I see "The Monotype Corporation plc/Time
> Solutions Inc. 1990-1992. All Rights ReservedSymbolRegular... blah, blah"
You have a different file from Paul then.
> > This font is menace on a Debian system. As both of you have found out
> > it needs to be put somewhere where fontconfig does not look. Examining
> > it with fontforge reveals the unicode values for the glyphs are
> > incorrect. Not that the GPL version of the same font in wine has
> > anything to boast about - it too suffers from an identical defect.
>
> Well, as I already explained, the same TrueType font works well in Wheezy
> so to my eyes is not the font that is a menace but a bug located
> elsewhere in both Squeeze and Lenny :-)
Where can we download this file to test?
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06-23-2012, 08:54 AM
Camaleón
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 19:58:04 +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 22 Jun 2012 at 17:42:26 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
(...)
>> > I wonder whether it is. His has "Copyright URW Software, Copyright
>> > 1997 by URW" in the file.
>>
>> What file? You mean the .ttf font? :-?
>
> Of course.
>
>> When I open "symbol.ttf" from MC I see "The Monotype Corporation
>> plc/Time Solutions Inc. 1990-1992. All Rights ReservedSymbolRegular...
>> blah, blah"
>
> You have a different file from Paul then.
Yes, that's what I said. We've got a problem with the same font
(symbol.ttf) but the file comes from a different "manufacturer", so to
speak.
>> > This font is menace on a Debian system. As both of you have found out
>> > it needs to be put somewhere where fontconfig does not look.
>> > Examining it with fontforge reveals the unicode values for the glyphs
>> > are incorrect. Not that the GPL version of the same font in wine has
>> > anything to boast about - it too suffers from an identical defect.
>>
>> Well, as I already explained, the same TrueType font works well in
>> Wheezy so to my eyes is not the font that is a menace but a bug located
>> elsewhere in both Squeeze and Lenny :-)
>
> Where can we download this file to test?
I'm using the Symbol TrueType font that came by default along with
Windows XP¹, I can send you the file if you want to play with it.
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06-23-2012, 03:40 PM
Camaleón
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 08:54:47 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
(...)
>>> Well, as I already explained, the same TrueType font works well in
>>> Wheezy so to my eyes is not the font that is a menace but a bug
>>> located elsewhere in both Squeeze and Lenny :-)
Mmm... after running more tests in Wheezy I realized that *any* of the
symbol.ttf fonts I've tested (Paul's and mine) are failing to render the
PDF.
What happened is that I forgot to remove the "~/.fonts.conf" when I was
doing the first tests and instead rendering Symbol it was being replaced
with a different font, that's why I thought in Wheezy was working fine.
After removing "~/.fonts.conf" and having the MS (or URW) symbol.ttf
under "/usr/local/share/fonts" the sample PDF is still showing the wrong
characters.
>> Where can we download this file to test?
>
> I'm using the Symbol TrueType font that came by default along with
> Windows XP¹, I can send you the file if you want to play with it.
And here it comes another recent discovery I've made that points to a
glyphs problem... if I open the sample PDF file (Fig5.pdf) with a text
editor (mcedit Fig5.pdf), scroll down to line #134 and add the following
(#135):
#134 /BaseFont /Symbol
#135 /Encoding /MacRomanEncoding << this line
Save the document and open again with a PDF reader, et voilà, the
characters are properly displayed. So what can be happening after all is
that the "symbol.ttf" fonts we are using lack for the required glyphs to
render a specific set of the encoded characters but not all.
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06-24-2012, 09:02 AM
Brian
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On Sat 23 Jun 2012 at 08:54:47 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
> I'm using the Symbol TrueType font that came by default along with
> Windows XP¹, I can send you the file if you want to play with it.
Thank you for the offer. I managed to get it from elsewhere.
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