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Old 04-10-2012, 10:41 PM
Sian Mountbatten
 
Default TV with Linux

Hi All

The subject is pretty confusing. I've ordered a Hauppauge DVD-T Nova-T
USB stick and I've downloaded a 7zip file with all the firmware files
required. I've been able to check that the firmware for the Nova-T is
now installed in /lib/firmware. What now?


Ok, eventually the TV tuner will arrive and I've also ordered a small TV
aerial. So, I connect the aerial to the tuner, connect the tuner to the
PC via a USB port. Then what? I gather there is a remote control with 45
buttons on it. Seems a lot to me.


I've found a web page about XBMC and I've succeeded in compiling xbmc
for my Linux desktop. The xbmc-bin file is gigantic: 145MB of binary and
it still requires 115 libraries! Do I have to have XBMC. What will it
enable me to do which I couldn't do without?


Has anybody on the list got TV on Linux and, if so, what did you do to
get it working? Any comments would be much appreciated (I don't have
room for a standalone TV set so TV on Linux is my only option).


Regards
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Old 04-10-2012, 11:28 PM
Rob Owens
 
Default TV with Linux

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:41:57PM +0100, Sian Mountbatten wrote:
> Hi All
>
> The subject is pretty confusing. I've ordered a Hauppauge DVD-T
> Nova-T USB stick and I've downloaded a 7zip file with all the
> firmware files required. I've been able to check that the firmware
> for the Nova-T is now installed in /lib/firmware. What now?
>
I think on reboot, hotplug should find the firmware and load it. You
can check dmesg to find out if it worked.

> Ok, eventually the TV tuner will arrive and I've also ordered a
> small TV aerial. So, I connect the aerial to the tuner, connect the
> tuner to the PC via a USB port. Then what? I gather there is a
> remote control with 45 buttons on it. Seems a lot to me.
>
> I've found a web page about XBMC and I've succeeded in compiling
> xbmc for my Linux desktop. The xbmc-bin file is gigantic: 145MB of
> binary and it still requires 115 libraries! Do I have to have XBMC.
> What will it enable me to do which I couldn't do without?
>
> Has anybody on the list got TV on Linux and, if so, what did you do
> to get it working? Any comments would be much appreciated (I don't
> have room for a standalone TV set so TV on Linux is my only option).
>
I use MythTV with a Hauppauge PVR-150. I followed the wiki
documentation to get it working. I tested the video card with:

cat /dev/video0 > test.mpeg

to see if it worked properly, then configured MythTV to use it.

-Rob


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Old 04-11-2012, 05:04 AM
Dom
 
Default TV with Linux

On 10/04/12 23:41, Sian Mountbatten wrote:

Hi All

The subject is pretty confusing. I've ordered a Hauppauge DVD-T Nova-T
USB stick and I've downloaded a 7zip file with all the firmware files
required. I've been able to check that the firmware for the Nova-T is
now installed in /lib/firmware. What now?

Ok, eventually the TV tuner will arrive and I've also ordered a small TV
aerial. So, I connect the aerial to the tuner, connect the tuner to the
PC via a USB port. Then what? I gather there is a remote control with 45
buttons on it. Seems a lot to me.


In theory, when you plug in the stick the corect driver module will be
loaded, which will pull in the firmware and create a device called
/dev/video0. You will be able to use that device to watch and record TV
programmes.



I've found a web page about XBMC and I've succeeded in compiling xbmc
for my Linux desktop. The xbmc-bin file is gigantic: 145MB of binary and
it still requires 115 libraries! Do I have to have XBMC. What will it
enable me to do which I couldn't do without?

Has anybody on the list got TV on Linux and, if so, what did you do to
get it working? Any comments would be much appreciated (I don't have
room for a standalone TV set so TV on Linux is my only option).


I have been using MythTV from the debian-multimedia repository for about
6 years now, (they have xbmc pre-compiled too), on an old PC with four
PCI digital TV tuner cards in. MythTV can record multiple (adjacent)
channels on each card - I've got mine set to a maximum of 6 channels per
card, so *could* record 24 programmes at once. This, of course, is silly
and I'd never need to do it, but sometimes one programme starts before
another ends. MythTV can be a bit fiddly to set up intially, but is easy
to use after that.


My next goal is to see if I can set up a Raspberry Pi as a MythTV
frontend, so I can have the noisy backend machine in another room - I
just need to get my hands on one first :-)

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Old 04-11-2012, 06:19 AM
Alan Chandler
 
Default TV with Linux

On 11/04/12 06:04, Dom wrote:


I have been using MythTV from the debian-multimedia repository for
about 6 years now, (they have xbmc pre-compiled too), on an old PC
with four PCI digital TV tuner cards in. MythTV can record multiple
(adjacent) channels on each card - I've got mine set to a maximum of 6
channels per card, so *could* record 24 programmes at once. This, of
course, is silly and I'd never need to do it, but sometimes one
programme starts before another ends. MythTV can be a bit fiddly to
set up intially, but is easy to use after that.


My next goal is to see if I can set up a Raspberry Pi as a MythTV
frontend, so I can have the noisy backend machine in another room - I
just need to get my hands on one first :-)


I have a Mythtv setup on my Debian Squeeze home server (which also
serves as everything else - mail, web, internet firewall...) and watch
it from my Debian Sid desktop.


I also have a RaspberryPi on "order" (I am in a queue with RS to be able
to order one) with the same intention. I suspect (although not yet 100%
sure) that the special xbmc version made for the Pi will read data from
a MythTv backend. There is one Gotcha that I wasn't able to get a clear
answer on when I asked - the incoming digital signal is in MPEG2 format
and MythTV stores the stream as mpeg2. The PI only has a (firmware)
codec for Mpeg4, so not sure if transcoding between mpeg2 and mpeg4 is
going to be necessary.


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Old 04-11-2012, 07:41 AM
Joe
 
Default TV with Linux

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 23:41:57 +0100
Sian Mountbatten <poenikatu@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> The subject is pretty confusing. I've ordered a Hauppauge DVD-T
> Nova-T USB stick and I've downloaded a 7zip file with all the
> firmware files required. I've been able to check that the firmware
> for the Nova-T is now installed in /lib/firmware. What now?
>
> Ok, eventually the TV tuner will arrive and I've also ordered a small
> TV aerial. So, I connect the aerial to the tuner, connect the tuner
> to the PC via a USB port. Then what? I gather there is a remote
> control with 45 buttons on it. Seems a lot to me.
>
> I've found a web page about XBMC and I've succeeded in compiling xbmc
> for my Linux desktop. The xbmc-bin file is gigantic: 145MB of binary
> and it still requires 115 libraries! Do I have to have XBMC. What
> will it enable me to do which I couldn't do without?
>
> Has anybody on the list got TV on Linux and, if so, what did you do
> to get it working? Any comments would be much appreciated (I don't
> have room for a standalone TV set so TV on Linux is my only option).
>
> Regards
> --
> Sian Mountbatten
> Algol 68 specialist
>
>


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Old 04-11-2012, 08:40 AM
richard
 
Default TV with Linux

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 23:41:57 +0100
Sian Mountbatten <poenikatu@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> The subject is pretty confusing. I've ordered a Hauppauge DVD-T
> Nova-T USB stick and I've downloaded a 7zip file with all the
> firmware files required. I've been able to check that the firmware
> for the Nova-T is now installed in /lib/firmware. What now?
>
> Ok, eventually the TV tuner will arrive and I've also ordered a small
> TV aerial. So, I connect the aerial to the tuner, connect the tuner
> to the PC via a USB port. Then what? I gather there is a remote
> control with 45 buttons on it. Seems a lot to me.
>
> I've found a web page about XBMC and I've succeeded in compiling xbmc
> for my Linux desktop. The xbmc-bin file is gigantic: 145MB of binary
> and it still requires 115 libraries! Do I have to have XBMC. What
> will it enable me to do which I couldn't do without?
>
> Has anybody on the list got TV on Linux and, if so, what did you do
> to get it working? Any comments would be much appreciated (I don't
> have room for a standalone TV set so TV on Linux is my only option).
>
> Regards
> --
> Sian Mountbatten
> Algol 68 specialist
>
>

Hi

I use kaffeine which works well with DVB, I tried others but not so
reliable.

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Old 04-11-2012, 10:46 AM
Darac Marjal
 
Default TV with Linux

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:41:57PM +0100, Sian Mountbatten wrote:
> Hi All
>
> The subject is pretty confusing. I've ordered a Hauppauge DVD-T
> Nova-T USB stick and I've downloaded a 7zip file with all the
> firmware files required. I've been able to check that the firmware
> for the Nova-T is now installed in /lib/firmware. What now?
>
> Ok, eventually the TV tuner will arrive and I've also ordered a
> small TV aerial. So, I connect the aerial to the tuner, connect the
> tuner to the PC via a USB port. Then what? I gather there is a
> remote control with 45 buttons on it. Seems a lot to me.
>
> I've found a web page about XBMC and I've succeeded in compiling
> xbmc for my Linux desktop. The xbmc-bin file is gigantic: 145MB of
> binary and it still requires 115 libraries! Do I have to have XBMC.
> What will it enable me to do which I couldn't do without?
>
> Has anybody on the list got TV on Linux and, if so, what did you do
> to get it working? Any comments would be much appreciated (I don't
> have room for a standalone TV set so TV on Linux is my only option).

It depends on how you want to watch TV. I presume that, being USB, your
plan is to plug in and then start a program to just watch what's on TV
now?

Plenty of video apps will allow input from a TV tuner, so if you have
VLC, Kaffeine etc installed you may find they work (though they may
require knowledge of frequencies to tune to etc). For a higher-level
interface, try "tvtime". Right-clicking in the window will give you a
menu to set things up, then you should be able to use your cursor keys
to change channel.

If you plan to have the USB stick plugged in permanently and the PC on
24/7 they you may find a PVR more suitable (XBMC, MythTV etc are PVRs -
personal video recorders). These are basically daemons which monitor
your TV tuner and record the programs you want to watch. Just like a
TiVo if you're aware of them. You can, of course, watch Live TV with
them, but they are definitely overkill if that's ALL you want to do.
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:37 PM
Camaleón
 
Default TV with Linux

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 23:41:57 +0100, Sian Mountbatten wrote:

> Hi All
>
> The subject is pretty confusing. I've ordered a Hauppauge DVD-T Nova-T
> USB stick and I've downloaded a 7zip file with all the firmware files
> required. I've been able to check that the firmware for the Nova-T is
> now installed in /lib/firmware. What now?

(...)

Now it's time to watch TV :-)

Choose a program of your liking (in GNOME I used Totem with my old Nova-T
USB stick, in join with "gnome-dvb-client"), then configure it (channel
tuning) and you're done.

Greetings,

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