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Old 04-01-2012, 01:10 PM
Camaleón
 
Default Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE

On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:42:28 -0500, Kevin McKinley wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Can you post the error message you get when mounting a device with ext2
>> or reiserfs format?
>
> The error message is the same when trying to mount a reiserfs device. My
> recollection is that it's the same for ext2 as well, and I can confirm
> that later today.

It can't be the "same" message, that's for sure ;-)

When you have the time, send the last lines of dmesg after attaching an
external device formatted with etx2 or reiserfs.

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Old 04-01-2012, 01:15 PM
ntrfug
 
Default Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE

On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:15:22 +0300
Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just for confirmation, you get a message telling you to rebuild
> ntfs-3g when the filesystem is ext2? Can you show us the relevant
> part of /var/log/syslog when you plug the thumb drive? ('tail -f'
> helps here).

That is correct -- regardless of the filesystem -- NTFS, ext2, or
reiserfs -- I get the same message I originally posted. I was able to
use all these devices in Kubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron), which I used before
updating to Wheezy; I can still get to the NTFS thumb drive via my
Windows virtual machine.

From /var/log/syslog:

Apr 1 07:48:31 mysystem kernel: [281274.340138] usb 1-3: new high speed
USB device number 12 using ehci_hcd
Apr 1 07:48:31 mysystem kernel: [281274.484520] usb 1-3: New USB device
found, idVendor=12f7, idProduct=1e23
Apr 1 07:48:31 mysystem kernel: [281274.484529] usb 1-3: New USB device
strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Apr 1 07:48:31 mystem kernel: [281274.484536] usb 1-3: Product:
TRAVELDRIVE 005B
Apr 1 07:48:31 mysystem kernel: [281274.484541] usb 1-3: Manufacturer:
Memorex
Apr 1 07:48:31 mysystem kernel: [281274.484546] usb 1-3: SerialNumber:
07840A3A0571
Apr 1 07:48:31 mysystem kernel: [281274.485332] scsi11 : usb-storage
1-3:1.0
Apr 1 07:48:32 mysystem mtp-probe: checking bus 1, device 12:
"/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.7/usb1/1-3"
Apr 1 07:48:32 mysystem mtp-probe: bus: 1, device: 12 was not an MTP
device
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.531867] scsi 11:0:0:0:
Direct-Access Memorex TRAVELDRIVE 005B PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.815210] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
16117760 512-byte logical blocks: (8.25 GB/7.68 GiB)
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.815798] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
Write Protect is off
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.815806] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode
Sense: 23 00 00 00
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.816308] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] No
Caching mode page present
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.816317] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
Assuming drive cache: write through
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.820328] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] No
Caching mode page present
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.820336] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
Assuming drive cache: write through
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.880139] sdb: sdb1
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.882426] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] No
Caching mode page present
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.882435] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
Assuming drive cache: write through
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.882442] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
Attached SCSI removable disk

I've used Linux for 12 years now; I recently returned to the Debian
fold after seven years of using Kubuntu (the seven-year itch?).


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Old 04-01-2012, 01:17 PM
ntrfug
 
Default Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE

On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:10:48 +0000 (UTC)
Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com> wrote:

> It can't be the "same" message, that's for sure ;-)

Yes, it can.

It is.

Exactly the same.

How do you "know" otherwise?


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Old 04-01-2012, 01:31 PM
Keith McKenzie
 
Default Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE

On 01/04/12 14:15, ntrfug wrote:

Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.882442] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
Attached SCSI removable disk
It's there. So if you use a root terminal, you should be able to mount
it. After that, you will need to find out why it isn't being auto
mounted, as that seems to be what you want.


(If you have never mounted via root; mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt)


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Old 04-01-2012, 02:04 PM
ntrfug
 
Default Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE

On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:31:02 +0100
Keith McKenzie <km3952@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's there. So if you use a root terminal, you should be able to
> mount it. After that, you will need to find out why it isn't being
> auto mounted, as that seems to be what you want.

I already know I can mount it as root.

I would like to be able to automatically mount external devices
read/write as a normal user, as I have been able to do for years.

There should be no need to rebuild Debian packages to do that.


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Old 04-01-2012, 02:12 PM
ntrfug
 
Default Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE

On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:22:59 +0000 (UTC)
Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com> wrote:

> Bug?
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631504

Thank you for that pointer. Apparently this has been an issue for a
while, and for GNOME desktops as well (which indicates to me that the
problem is somewhere in the automount process -- I can mount these
devices from a root shell).

I looked through the debian-users archive and couldn't see anyone
else using KDE complaining, but I can hardly believe I'm the only one
having this problem.


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Old 04-01-2012, 02:21 PM
Camaleón
 
Default Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE

On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:17:52 -0500, ntrfug wrote:

> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It can't be the "same" message, that's for sure ;-)
>
> Yes, it can.
>
> It is.
>
> Exactly the same.

Show us, please.

I really doubt you get a message pointing to NTFS-G3 or Tuxera website
for a volume formatted with ext2 or reiserfs. That would be something
worth seeing :-)

> How do you "know" otherwise?

I already said... "dmesg" will tell.

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Old 04-01-2012, 02:34 PM
Camaleón
 
Default Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE

On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 09:12:59 -0500, ntrfug wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Bug?
>>
>> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631504
>
> Thank you for that pointer. Apparently this has been an issue for a
> while, and for GNOME desktops as well (which indicates to me that the
> problem is somewhere in the automount process -- I can mount these
> devices from a root shell).

Yes.

> I looked through the debian-users archive and couldn't see anyone else
> using KDE complaining, but I can hardly believe I'm the only one having
> this problem.

AFAIK, GNOME and KDE both use FUSE for mounting these kind of volumes so
they must share the same problematic. A simple search in Google confirms
that point:

http://goo.gl/D5iEt

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Old 04-01-2012, 02:48 PM
ntrfug
 
Default Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE

On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:21:49 +0000 (UTC)
Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com> wrote:

> Show us, please.
>
> I really doubt you get a message pointing to NTFS-G3 or Tuxera
> website for a volume formatted with ext2 or reiserfs. That would be
> something worth seeing :-)

I HAVE shown you.

You HAVE seen it.

If you refuse to believe it, that's on you.


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Old 04-01-2012, 03:18 PM
Camaleón
 
Default Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE

On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 09:48:27 -0500, ntrfug wrote:

> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:21:49 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Show us, please.
>>
>> I really doubt you get a message pointing to NTFS-G3 or Tuxera website
>> for a volume formatted with ext2 or reiserfs. That would be something
>> worth seeing :-)
>
> I HAVE shown you.

Where exactly?

I though your first post was about NTFS volume.

> You HAVE seen it.

You know more than me, then...

> If you refuse to believe it, that's on you.

I'm not a "believer", that's true, I rely on logs so I may have missed
something, can you please point me to them? :-)

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