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Old 03-31-2012, 10:00 PM
richard
 
Default OT:change of mail provider

Hi,
Now can I see my postings ???

Please ignore

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Old 04-01-2012, 07:13 AM
Mika Suomalainen
 
Default OT:change of mail provider

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On 01.04.2012 01:00, richard wrote:
> Hi, Now can I see my postings ???
>
> Please ignore
>

Yes we can. But I think that somewhere read that you shouldn't send
testing of email addresses to this list.

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> 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728
>> NOTE: The old key (62FE66853913CB03) expires on 03.04.2012!
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:30 AM
richard
 
Default OT:change of mail provider

On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:13:46 +0300
Mika Suomalainen <mika.henrik.mainio@hotmail.com> wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> On 01.04.2012 01:00, richard wrote:
> > Hi, Now can I see my postings ???
> >
> > Please ignore
> >
>
> Yes we can. But I think that somewhere read that you shouldn't send
> testing of email addresses to this list.
>
> - --
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Mika as you have appointed yourself as a list policeman, please explain
how I am to test on whether or not I am now able to see my first
posting without send a post ?????

If you check in the archives you will find I raised the problem a while
ago , wanting to know if it was the way debian lists are managed , and
from that found my ISP was using gmail and blocking mail addressed back
to the sender as a list posting does.

You have increased the bandwidth used with your huge sig block as well
as the answer for me.

OR WERE YOU JUST TROLLING ?
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:45 AM
Scott Ferguson
 
Default OT:change of mail provider

On 01/04/12 19:30, richard wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:13:46 +0300
> Mika Suomalainen <mika.henrik.mainio@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Dear Richard,

"Do not send "test" messages to determine whether your mail client is
working"


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Old 04-01-2012, 09:46 AM
Mika Suomalainen
 
Default OT:change of mail provider

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On 01.04.2012 12:30, richard wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:13:46 +0300 Mika Suomalainen
> <mika.henrik.mainio@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
>>
>> On 01.04.2012 01:00, richard wrote:
>>> Hi, Now can I see my postings ???
>>>
>>> Please ignore
>>>
>>
>> Yes we can. But I think that somewhere read that you shouldn't
>> send testing of email addresses to this list.
>>
>> - -- Mika Suomalainen
>
>
> Mika as you have appointed yourself as a list policeman, please
> explain how I am to test on whether or not I am now able to see my
> first posting without send a post ?????

I don't know. You could ask return receipts, like I do.
By the way, the somewhere which I said in previous email is at
http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct .

> If you check in the archives you will find I raised the problem a
> while ago , wanting to know if it was the way debian lists are
> managed , and from that found my ISP was using gmail and blocking
> mail addressed back to the sender as a list posting does.

Ok.

> You have increased the bandwidth used with your huge sig block as
> well as the answer for me.

If I didn't sign emails which I send, there is no easy way to verify
that I have sent them. Email spoofing can be done with some clicks.

> OR WERE YOU JUST TROLLING ?

I am sorry, if you think that I am trolling. I don't mean to troll anyone.

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> gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys
> 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65
> 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728
>> NOTE: The old key (62FE66853913CB03) expires on 03.04.2012!
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:32 AM
Andrei POPESCU
 
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On Du, 01 apr 12, 12:46:09, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> >
> > Mika as you have appointed yourself as a list policeman, please
> > explain how I am to test on whether or not I am now able to see my
> > first posting without send a post ?????

Easy, you look up a thread you can contribute and post to it

> I don't know. You could ask return receipts, like I do.

Hmm, we probably need a "return receipts" day, where everybody sends
return receipts to everybody who asks them
This way people might understand what a useless waste of time, bandwidth
and storage space they are.

Just one example: Outlook has this dialog box where you have to click
"Ok" to send a read receipt, but even if you move it aside, you can't
scroll down to actually read the entire mail[1]. And if the mail looks
like you need to take the time to read it carefully there is no way to
postpone it, you have to click "No" to get rid of it and later you will
have to reply to it anyway

IMNSHO, if the message is important enough that you want/need a
confirmation "on file" you should specifically ask for acknowledgement,
preferably at the end of the e-mail, otherwise you have no way to tell
they actually read to the bottom.

[1] What most people do is just click it away (or even worse, check the
"Always send read receipts" box), which doesn't actually tell if the
receiver really took the time to read that e-mail beyond the first few
lines.

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Old 04-01-2012, 11:06 AM
Chris Davies
 
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richard <richard@g8jvm.com> wrote:
> how I am to test on whether or not I am now able to see my first
> posting without send a post ?????

Post something of value, like the real question you want to ask. There are
thousands of us out here and we all get to see your test posting. (I'll
not respond on-list further.)

Chris


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Old 04-01-2012, 11:18 AM
richard
 
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On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:32:51 +0300
Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Du, 01 apr 12, 12:46:09, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> > >
> > > Mika as you have appointed yourself as a list policeman, please
> > > explain how I am to test on whether or not I am now able to see my
> > > first posting without send a post ?????
>
> Easy, you look up a thread you can contribute and post to it
>
> > I don't know. You could ask return receipts, like I do.
>
> Hmm, we probably need a "return receipts" day, where everybody sends
> return receipts to everybody who asks them
> This way people might understand what a useless waste of time,
> bandwidth and storage space they are.
>
> Just one example: Outlook has this dialog box where you have to click
> "Ok" to send a read receipt, but even if you move it aside, you can't
> scroll down to actually read the entire mail[1]. And if the mail
> looks like you need to take the time to read it carefully there is no
> way to postpone it, you have to click "No" to get rid of it and later
> you will have to reply to it anyway
>
> IMNSHO, if the message is important enough that you want/need a
> confirmation "on file" you should specifically ask for
> acknowledgement, preferably at the end of the e-mail, otherwise you
> have no way to tell they actually read to the bottom.
>
> [1] What most people do is just click it away (or even worse, check
> the "Always send read receipts" box), which doesn't actually tell if
> the receiver really took the time to read that e-mail beyond the
> first few lines.
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei

NO that will not work, it is only the first posting that gets blocked.

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Old 04-01-2012, 11:50 AM
Andrei POPESCU
 
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On Du, 01 apr 12, 12:18:55, richard wrote:
>
> NO that will not work, it is only the first posting that gets blocked.

Subscribe to http://lists.debian.org/whitelist

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Old 04-01-2012, 07:10 PM
Indulekha
 
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>
> Mika as you have appointed yourself as a list policeman, please explain
> how I am to test on whether or not I am now able to see my first
> posting without send a post ?????
>

You could always say something trivial and harmless, without
mentioning "test" (which makes some people freak out for some
reason). In fact, I was looking for just such an opportunity
myself when I encountered your message, so thanks!

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