Fair enough -- mea culpa.

Lisi wrote:

On Sunday 01 April 2012 16:41:50 PMA wrote:

Nobody has been insulted :-?


Granted, no-one has screamed. I saw, BTW, only an unattributed quote,
so don't know whose it was.


In this case (as often!) you needed to have read the thread rather than
reacting to an out of context quote. We have all, of course, done the
latter. ;-)

Lisi



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On 01.04.2012 19:32, PMA wrote:
> Fair enough -- mea culpa.
>
> Lisi wrote:
>> On Sunday 01 April 2012 16:41:50 PMA wrote:
<...>

Didn't this whole thread start, because some people (I) top-posted?

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On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:32:47 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

> On 01.04.2012 19:32, PMA wrote:
>> Fair enough -- mea culpa.
>>
>> Lisi wrote:
>>> On Sunday 01 April 2012 16:41:50 PMA wrote:
> <...>
>
> Didn't this whole thread start, because some people (I) top-posted?

To be more precise, it started because someone (you) asked what was
that ;-)

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On 01.04.2012 19:42, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:32:47 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
>
>> On 01.04.2012 19:32, PMA wrote:
>>> Fair enough -- mea culpa.
>>>
>>> Lisi wrote:
>>>> On Sunday 01 April 2012 16:41:50 PMA wrote:
>> <...>
>>
>> Didn't this whole thread start, because some people (I)
>> top-posted?
>
> To be more precise, it started because someone (you) asked what was
> that ;-)
>
> Greetings,
>

And after that I was taught to bottom post and so on...

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On Sun 01 Apr 2012 at 19:32:47 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

> Didn't this whole thread start, because some people (I) top-posted?

It has continued to its present length of nearly fifty posts after you
said:

> Could someone explain me, what are "top- and bottom posting"
> styles?

If Debian had an award for Most Inane Question of the Year yours would
most definitely be well in the running based on the Search Engine Test.
Applying a few of the other criteria the judges might consider:

Does it help the person who started the thread?
Does it add value to the topic in the subject header?
Does having it labelled [OT] make it more acceptable?
Does the poster appear to be wearing a trolling costume?

you can anticipate being a winner.


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On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:45:52 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

> On 01.04.2012 19:42, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:32:47 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
>>
>>> On 01.04.2012 19:32, PMA wrote:
>>>> Fair enough -- mea culpa.
>>>>
>>>> Lisi wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday 01 April 2012 16:41:50 PMA wrote:
>>> <...>
>>>
>>> Didn't this whole thread start, because some people (I) top-posted?
>>
>> To be more precise, it started because someone (you) asked what was
>> that ;-)
>>
>>
>>
> And after that I was taught to bottom post and so on...

That's what happens when someone opens Pandora's Box, you never know how
we'll gonna end.

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On 01.04.2012 19:55, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 01 Apr 2012 at 19:32:47 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
>
>> Didn't this whole thread start, because some people (I)
>> top-posted?
>
> It has continued to its present length of nearly fifty posts after
> you said:
>
>> Could someone explain me, what are "top- and bottom posting"
>> styles?

Which is the most long thread on this list right now?

> If Debian had an award for Most Inane Question of the Year yours
> would most definitely be well in the running based on the Search
> Engine Test. Applying a few of the other criteria the judges might
> consider:
>
> Does it help the person who started the thread?

I think that it did.

> Does it add value to the topic in the subject header?

I'm not sure, probably.

> Does having it labelled [OT] make it more acceptable?

I didn't label this. This was some other thread at first .

> Does the poster appear to be wearing a trolling costume?

I don't think so.

> you can anticipate being a winner.
>
>


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On 04/01/2012 12:21 PM, Lisi wrote:

On Sunday 01 April 2012 16:41:50 PMA wrote:

Nobody has been insulted :-?

Granted, no-one has screamed. I saw, BTW, only an unattributed quote,
so don't know whose it was.

In this case (as often!) you needed to have read the thread rather than
reacting to an out of context quote. We have all, of course, done the
latter. ;-)

Lisi


I thought this topic was thoroughly killed years ago. I am killing it
herewith:

I am filtering out all further mails of this nature. --doug

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Camaleón wrote:

El 2012-04-01 a las 09:44 -0400, Miles Fidelman escribió:

(sending back to the list)


Camaleón wrote:

Those "rules" (I prefer to see them as "tips for good guidance") are
written by all of us, people like you or me, that is, people who
participate in the mailing lists.

The question does raise two interesting points:

- what IS the "official" process for setting rules (presumably, since
the Debian project hosts these lists, and the servers they run on,
somebody, through some process, has the authority to set rules for the
lists, and post those rules to lists.debian.org) - but what are the
details? anybody know?

I don't know, but the way this workes in other projects I've participated
these conventions are made and developed by their user members, which
includes all of us.


Right... but in this case, the Debian project is a pretty big one, with
some formal governance, and the rules are written to govern a whole
bunch of lists. So I kind of wonder if there's any formality somewhere
along the chain, like there is with committing things to the Debian repos.


Just sort of curious at this point.

Cheers,

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On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 16:49:34 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:

> Camaleón wrote:
>> El 2012-04-01 a las 09:44 -0400, Miles Fidelman escribió:
>>
>> (sending back to the list)
>>
>>> Camaleón wrote:
>>>> Those "rules" (I prefer to see them as "tips for good guidance") are
>>>> written by all of us, people like you or me, that is, people who
>>>> participate in the mailing lists.
>>> The question does raise two interesting points:
>>>
>>> - what IS the "official" process for setting rules (presumably, since
>>> the Debian project hosts these lists, and the servers they run on,
>>> somebody, through some process, has the authority to set rules for the
>>> lists, and post those rules to lists.debian.org) - but what are the
>>> details? anybody know?
>> I don't know, but the way this workes in other projects I've
>> participated these conventions are made and developed by their user
>> members, which includes all of us.
>
> Right... but in this case, the Debian project is a pretty big one, with
> some formal governance, and the rules are written to govern a whole
> bunch of lists. So I kind of wonder if there's any formality somewhere
> along the chain, like there is with committing things to the Debian
> repos.
>
> Just sort of curious at this point.

Though I know this won't fill up your thirst for knowledge, in the
absence of more information on this regard (on this "policy") I keep as
good what is written at Debian website and their wiki.

For a deep look inside this, I would ask into Debian project mailing
list, or another mailing list that suits for this question.

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