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Mika Suomalainen 03-30-2012 03:36 PM

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Thanks :).

But some people like top posting, like me. I think that with top
posting the new message is easier to read than, when it's below the quote.

I know that this can be configured in client and I have set Icedove to
use top posting and K9 Mail does it by default, if I recall correctly.

On 30.03.2012 18:28, Camaleón wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:25:42 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
>
>> Could someone explain me, what are "top- and bottom posting"
>> styles?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
>
> Greetings,
>

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Mika Suomalainen 03-30-2012 03:53 PM

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With phones, it's easier to follow top posting in my opinion.

There are many kinds of people, so everyone has different opinion
about top/bottom posting :)

On 30.03.2012 18:50, Lisi wrote:
> On Friday 30 March 2012 16:34:54 Paul Johnson wrote:
>> Though it's generally ideal to go with a conversational style,
>> inserting new text within the quoted material for context. Top
>> posting almost never meets this, bottom posting only works when
>> the post you're responding to is very short.
>
> So use interleaving. Which is much the best. I find top-posting
> impossible to follow. And trim!!!
>
> Lisi
>
>

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Camaleón 03-30-2012 03:55 PM

Posting styles
 
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:36:25 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

> Thanks :).
>
> But some people like top posting, like me. I think that with top posting
> the new message is easier to read than, when it's below the quote.

That's up to you. And to me ;-)

> I know that this can be configured in client and I have set Icedove to
> use top posting and K9 Mail does it by default, if I recall correctly.

You can use whatever you prefer unless there's some recommendation in
this list for that regard. I still prefer the bottom posting style for
threading messages (like these on mailing lists) and so I say when
someone sends it otherwise. I like keeping the good manners.

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Paul Johnson 03-30-2012 03:55 PM

Posting styles
 
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Mika Suomalainen
<mika.henrik.mainio@hotmail.com> wrote:
> With phones, it's easier to follow top posting in my opinion.

I usually read/post from my phone. I'm going to have to strongly
disagree with that. Top posting makes it that much harder to properly
edit a reply for on a mobile device, which due to the small size,
already is hard enough.

> There are many kinds of people, so everyone has different opinion
> about top/bottom posting :)

Sure, but posting everything at one end or the other is usually not
the right answer. Newer material above older material just doesn't
work; people don't read in random order.


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Camaleón 03-30-2012 04:09 PM

Posting styles
 
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:53:09 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

> With phones, it's easier to follow top posting in my opinion.

<malicious mode on>

People with cell phones shouldn't post to mailing lists unless they keep
the good rules and manners when doing so >>>:-)

</malicious mode off>

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Kelly Clowers 03-30-2012 04:38 PM

Posting styles
 
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 08:55, Paul Johnson <baloo@ursamundi.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Mika Suomalainen
> <mika.henrik.mainio@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> With phones, it's easier to follow top posting in my opinion.
>
> I usually read/post from my phone. *I'm going to have to strongly
> disagree with that. *Top posting makes it that much harder to properly
> edit a reply for on a mobile device, which due to the small size,
> already is hard enough.

I don't post/read from my phone very much, but I agree.

>> There are many kinds of people, so everyone has different opinion
>> about top/bottom posting :)

I have never understood why though, aside from people getting
used it due to Outlook and some others horrible defaults...

>Sure, but posting everything at one end or the other is usually not
>the right answer. Newer material above older material just doesn't
>work; people don't read in random order.

Exactly.


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Mika Suomalainen 03-30-2012 05:14 PM

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Hint: Look for GPG signatures which mention "VERSION: APG" something,
they are sent from Android phones.

On 30.03.2012 19:09, Camaleón wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:53:09 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
>
>> With phones, it's easier to follow top posting in my opinion.
>
> <malicious mode on>
>
> People with cell phones shouldn't post to mailing lists unless
> they keep the good rules and manners when doing so >>>:-)
>
> </malicious mode off>
>
> Greetings,
>

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>> NOTE: The old key (62FE66853913CB03) expires on 03.04.2012!
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Mika Suomalainen 03-30-2012 05:18 PM

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So people should edit those quotes and put what they think inside
them, like Kelly just did?

On 30.03.2012 19:38, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 08:55, Paul Johnson <baloo@ursamundi.org>
> wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Mika Suomalainen
>> <mika.henrik.mainio@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> With phones, it's easier to follow top posting in my opinion.
>>
>> I usually read/post from my phone. I'm going to have to
>> strongly disagree with that. Top posting makes it that much
>> harder to properly edit a reply for on a mobile device, which due
>> to the small size, already is hard enough.
>
> I don't post/read from my phone very much, but I agree.

It probably depends on how email client on phone shows inline.

>>> There are many kinds of people, so everyone has different
>>> opinion about top/bottom posting :)
>
> I have never understood why though, aside from people getting used
> it due to Outlook and some others horrible defaults...
>
>> Sure, but posting everything at one end or the other is usually
>> not the right answer. Newer material above older material just
>> doesn't work; people don't read in random order.
>
> Exactly.
>
>
> Cheers, Kelly Clowers
>
>

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Mika Suomalainen
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> 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65
> 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728
>> NOTE: The old key (62FE66853913CB03) expires on 03.04.2012!
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Jon Dowland 03-30-2012 05:22 PM

Posting styles
 
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 06:36:25PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> But some people like top posting, like me. I think that with top
> posting the new message is easier to read than, when it's below the quote.
>
> I know that this can be configured in client and I have set Icedove to
> use top posting and K9 Mail does it by default, if I recall correctly.

Debian list policy / code of conduct is NOT to top post. Please respect it.


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Mika Suomalainen 03-30-2012 05:27 PM

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Can you link me to Debian list policy / code of conduct? I think that
I might have missed that part.

On 30.03.2012 20:22, Jon Dowland wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 06:36:25PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
>> But some people like top posting, like me. I think that with top
>> posting the new message is easier to read than, when it's below
>> the quote.
>>
>> I know that this can be configured in client and I have set
>> Icedove to use top posting and K9 Mail does it by default, if I
>> recall correctly.
>
> Debian list policy / code of conduct is NOT to top post. Please
> respect it.
>
>

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> gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys
> 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65
> 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728
>> NOTE: The old key (62FE66853913CB03) expires on 03.04.2012!
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